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    <title>"Made in Canada"</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Daniel J</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/d243f2be-5021-4f2a-a1c9-c21edb5c9cc3</id>
    <updated>2008-08-21T21:25:54Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-20T09:13:54Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;“Made in Canada”
&lt;br/&gt;by Daniel J Towsey
&lt;br/&gt;April 18, 2008
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.mychurch.org/blog/172704/Made-in-Canada
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&lt;br/&gt;“The closed minded know everything but see nothing”
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&lt;br/&gt;Before NAFTA, I could go to any retailer and I would have a really hard time to find anything that did not have a “Made in Canada” label.
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&lt;br/&gt;The only items that had a different label were beautiful artistic items and great Japanese Electronics.
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&lt;br/&gt;Once upon a time there was a lot of Canadian pride in our Canadian products. There was signs everywhere promoting “Buy Made in Canada” and little Canadian flags on Canadian products.
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&lt;br/&gt;Now when I go shopping I can’t find anything “Made in Canada”
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&lt;br/&gt;As a result of all the cheap Chinese products flooding all the  new huge foreign retail store chains. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Before NAFTA we had lots of Canadian owned national retail chains. Like Woolco, Woolworths, Towers, By-way, K-Mart, Steinbergs, just to name few. All these are now gone. We only have a couple of surviving chains. Like Zellers and Canadian Tire. They only survived because they now sell Chinese goods.
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&lt;br/&gt;I went to my local Wal-Mart recently and saw a sign that said that Wal-Mart is concerned about selling  goods manufactured in Canada, to help local employment and does so when it can. 
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&lt;br/&gt;So I spoke with the store manager and asked her. What percentage of goods that were sold in the store were manufactured by Canadians. She had absolutely no idea and it had never been anything she ever concerned herself with. And she absolutely did not care.
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&lt;br/&gt;I told her that I walked all through the store and could not find any products with made in Canada labels. I asked her if she could show me any. She could not because she had no idea what, if any products were actually made in Canada.
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&lt;br/&gt;I then said to her that the sign on the wall was absolutely deceptive.
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&lt;br/&gt;China is a country that has no human rights and people work for slaves wages to produce those cheap goods we now buy.
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&lt;br/&gt; As a result our own manufacturing facilities have ceased and all the factories and equipment have been bought for nothing and shipped out to China. 
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&lt;br/&gt;I heard somewhere that the poor peasants in China have to work seven days a week everyday of the year. With no holidays or days off. If a worker gets sick, they loose their job and may loose their life. 
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&lt;br/&gt;As China has no public health care. China is a country with a huge population. Where life is very cheap and people are very disposable.
&lt;br/&gt;Anyone in China that dares to speak up, soon discovers that reality.
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&lt;br/&gt;The same will soon be the case for all of us, as the NWO masters will have it all.
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&lt;br/&gt;NAFTA is destroying our Canadian identity.  The signs are everywhere. 
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&lt;br/&gt;We will pay dearly for the loss of our manufacturing. Like all corporate take overs. Where they flood the market with cheap goods and destroy our self sufficiency. The cheap goods will soon not be cheap. After we are completely dependent on cheap imported goods and can no longer make own. They will raise the prices. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Canada is a huge country with every conceivable natural resource.
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&lt;br/&gt;So can anyone tell me why there is a food bank [where they give out free food to the starving] in every neighborhood? Even the middle class neighborhoods have food banks. Every city also now has soup kitchens, where you can get a free meal once a day.
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&lt;br/&gt;It’s because our wealth is being stolen and given to the executives in government and corporations. As long as the government workers are taken care of, they are very willing to ignore the situation.
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&lt;br/&gt;That is why government workers no longer respond to, or care about the publics complaints or needs.
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&lt;br/&gt;Since NAFTA my country’s natural resources are being stolen by foreign corporate vultures. No longer is the value of our natural resources being shared with all Canadians.
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&lt;br/&gt;It is estimated that over 60% of Canada’s employment is as a result of government spending. So we have 60% of the employed that are tax receivers and there is only about 20% that are actually true tax payers. The remaining are the many homeless, poor, sick, elderly, children, and the  forgotten unemployed.
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&lt;br/&gt;The bankers are responsible for the destruction of our country. Canada’s wealth has been diverted from the peoples government to the bankers. Please read my “Once upon a time there was a Canada” to get the whole story.
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&lt;br/&gt;The corrupt ‘Federal Reserve Systems’ are at the heart of all the worlds problems... Please read my “The last democracy” to get the rest of the story.
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&lt;br/&gt;The out of control corporate criminals are proving that my Grand Mother was right when she told me some 45 years ago that, “Too much of a good thing, is never good”. Will the bankers have it too good.
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&lt;br/&gt;The huge corporations have been created as a result of the bankers being able to provide the funds because they produce money out of thin air. 
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&lt;br/&gt;It’s amazing how free money can corrupt everything. It’s a pyramid scheme. And the corruption has tricked down from the top and is now corrupting the very foundations of civilization. We have entered a new dark ages where the light of truth is extinguished.
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&lt;br/&gt;I am afraid that without TRUTH we only get insanity, from the insanity of Monsantos tampering with genetics, to unrestrained molecular tampering. That the unrestrained out of control insane are dooming this planet.
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&lt;br/&gt;Please read my “Are you ready for the truth” but I have to warn you. It is a very serious article and may really upset you. And please do not take the easy way out and think of attacking the messenger. Do your own research and you will eventually find out that everything I have written is backed up with the scary proof.
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&lt;br/&gt;Only the brave seek truth, all others are just cowards.
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&lt;br/&gt;Thanks to the digital age, The New World Order Masters are attacking individual rights and liberties from every direction at the same time.
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&lt;br/&gt;The situation is so absolutely horrible. That every caring informed individual has to become a “Truth Soldier”.
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&lt;br/&gt;And finally, please read my “Corrupt Canadian Elections” to learn how the digital age has made it so easy to fix vote results and completely subvert democracy and our ability to stop the NWO’s take over of our future........
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&lt;br/&gt;Your silence of the horrible truth of their deceptions will guaranty the NWO’s success..
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&lt;br/&gt;For they thrive on secrecy..
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&lt;br/&gt;So do you think it  just might be time to start screaming for your very life?
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&lt;br/&gt;While you still have a breath?
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&lt;br/&gt;But I fear that the corporate medias hold on your thoughts of reality will make our survival and individual  freedoms impossible.
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&lt;br/&gt;Also learn about the machinations of the NWO’s depopulation agenda that is will underway. From the poison fluoride to the US Patented AIDS virus..and the FDA blocking  LAETRILE one of the known cures for cancer.
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&lt;br/&gt;Is this THE END
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&lt;br/&gt;MY LINKS;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“A truth soldier”
&lt;br/&gt;http://danieltowsey.livejournal.com/11047.html
&lt;br/&gt;“The last democracy”
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.mychurch.org/blog/105969/The-Last-Democracy
&lt;br/&gt;“Once upon a time there was a Canada”
&lt;br/&gt;http://my.opera.com/danieltowsey/blog/2007/08/15/once-upon-a-time-there-was-a-canada
&lt;br/&gt;“Are you ready for the truth?”
&lt;br/&gt;http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/conspiraciesclub/message/291
&lt;br/&gt;“Corrupt Canadian Elections”
&lt;br/&gt;http://social.infowars.com/blog_entry.php?user=danieltowsey&amp;amp;blogentry_id=2822
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&lt;br/&gt;Additional LINKS
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&lt;br/&gt;conspiraciesclub is loaded with thousands of links to documentary videos, articles, documents, photos and more. Plus you will receive important e-mails with your free membership.
&lt;br/&gt;http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/conspiraciesclub
&lt;br/&gt;Canada's CEO’s sell out the nation  What's Behind the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" 
&lt;br/&gt;www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;amp;code=DOB20050407&amp;amp;articleId=197
&lt;br/&gt;Canada-US Relations - Defence Partnership – July 2003 They are going to hand over complete control of Canada’s military to the US..New World Order secret government
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.sfu.ca/casr/ft-lagasse1.htm
&lt;br/&gt;Deep Integration: TILMA and SPP to bring in rules to let corporations challenge Canada’s laws
&lt;br/&gt;Giving up on Canada -- and Critical Thought? 
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ORC110A.html
&lt;br/&gt;Protocols Of Zion' Is The Illuminati Blueprint 
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.rense.com/general40/proto.htm
&lt;br/&gt;WORLD CONQUEST THROUGH WORLD JEWISH GOVERNMENT
&lt;br/&gt;Full text of “The Protocols of the learned elders of Zion”
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm
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&lt;br/&gt;VIDEOS
&lt;br/&gt;Fluoride Deception Part 1 
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHo&amp;amp;feature=related 
&lt;br/&gt;The Future of Foods 
&lt;br/&gt;The Disturbing Truth Behind Genetic Engineering 
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=8656 
&lt;br/&gt;The world according to monsanto 
&lt;br/&gt;This is what insanity looks like 
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=314951162223259236 
&lt;br/&gt;AIDS CURE: U.S. Patent #5676977 
&lt;br/&gt;Dr. Boyd Graves discusses the origin of AIDS as well as the United States' patented cure, all based on official governmnet documentation 
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8567399552051355527&amp;amp;hl=en 
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&lt;br/&gt;You must see this movie
&lt;br/&gt;Aaron Russo’s
&lt;br/&gt;America From Freedom to Fascism
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Daniel J</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-04-20T09:13:54Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>teaching in Canada</title>
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    <author>
      <name>heidealist</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/72ea19c0-a236-4a2e-b779-dab0d4ea90a6</id>
    <updated>2008-06-08T20:53:38Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-07T04:32:11Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Any teachers here? I've gtot my letter of eligibility, but it seems like the only way to get hired in BC is to be hired as a teacher-on-call. I can't imagine moving my whole family up there to be a substitute with only an occasional chance of work. If I DID do TOC, would I be working every day?
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&lt;br/&gt;Anyone? If nobody knows, any ideas where I could ask?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>heidealist</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-07T04:32:11Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Canada's Police State Bill C51 Camouflaged as a Health Bill</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Daniel J</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/a87d9429-3291-47b7-ace6-7e9040c3118d</id>
    <updated>2008-05-13T20:23:52Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-13T20:23:52Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Canada's Police State Bill C51 Camouflaged as a Health Bill  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On April 8th 2008 The Health Minister of Canada introduced a totally unnecessary bill, that is quickly being forced through Parliament to attack the Natural health products and services industry on behalf of big Pharma. The public is being deceived and not informed of the police state provisions written into this bill. 
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&lt;br/&gt;read it here
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.mychurch.org/blog/185640/Canadas-Police-State-Bill-C51-Camouflaged-as-a-Health-Bill&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Daniel J</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-05-13T20:23:52Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Immigration and National Health Insurance</title>
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    <author>
      <name>finswimmer</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/59d7c468-0c90-4980-8137-708b1cbac0cd</id>
    <updated>2008-04-01T01:17:33Z</updated>
    <published>2008-03-09T00:16:11Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Has anyone here immigrated to Canada, become a naturalized Canadian citizen, and become eligible for Canadian national health
&lt;br/&gt;insurance? How long did the entire process take?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-03-09T00:16:11Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>New to this tribe.</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Kat</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/6e4666d6-10cd-4a71-97ee-c65d1ad66fdc</id>
    <updated>2008-03-27T15:23:35Z</updated>
    <published>2008-03-27T15:23:35Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I'm Kat. I'm an american living in canada, and have been for almost 2 years. I'm looking to talk to other americans and hear their stories. I'm perfectly willing to give out my messaging address because i'd love to meet fellow americans. It's good to know that I'm not the only one here that's from the states. And i'd love to hear other peoples experiences here and where they're from. So...message me. Lol.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
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  <entry>
    <title>Will Canada become the 51st state?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Alexander</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/0a7e0a07-eb17-4f0b-adf1-11dbf93e9456</id>
    <updated>2008-03-09T02:49:23Z</updated>
    <published>2007-08-27T12:32:20Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;The Vancouver Sun just had this article. Again I personally think this is a reason we should unite the bioregion and say fuck off to NAFTA, CAFTA, SPP and any idea of a North American Union (new Axis of Power)
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&lt;br/&gt;article:
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&lt;br/&gt;Will Canada become the 51st state?
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&lt;br/&gt;The Security and Prosperity Partnership: what it's all about and
&lt;br/&gt;what it could mean for Canadians
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kelly Patterson, CanWest News Service
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Published: Saturday, August 18, 2007
&lt;br/&gt;To some, it is a "corporate coup d'etat," a conspiracy by big
&lt;br/&gt;business to turn Canada into the 51st state by stealth. Others see
&lt;br/&gt;it as a plot to destroy the U.S. by forcing it into a North American
&lt;br/&gt;union with "socialist Canada" and "corrupt Mexico."
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&lt;br/&gt;It is the Security and Prosperity Partnership, a sprawling effort to
&lt;br/&gt;forge closer ties among the three nations in everything from anti-
&lt;br/&gt;terrorism measures to energy strategies to food-safety and pesticide
&lt;br/&gt;rules.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Launched two years ago by then prime minister Paul Martin, President
&lt;br/&gt;George W. Bush and his Mexican counterpart, Vicente Fox, at the so-
&lt;br/&gt;called Three Amigos summit in Waco, Tex., the SPP grew out of
&lt;br/&gt;concerns that security crackdowns would cripple cross-border trade.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Email to a friend
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&lt;br/&gt;Printer friendly
&lt;br/&gt;Font: ****With juggernauts such as China and India looming on the
&lt;br/&gt;horizon, the three countries agreed they had to act fast to stay
&lt;br/&gt;competitive. Now the SPP has grown into a mind-boggling array of
&lt;br/&gt;some 300 initiatives, involving 19 teams of bureaucrats from all
&lt;br/&gt;three countries.
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&lt;br/&gt;INTEGRATION BY STEALTH
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&lt;br/&gt;Its stated mission is "to keep our borders closed to terrorism yet
&lt;br/&gt;open to trade" by fostering "greater co-operation and information-
&lt;br/&gt;sharing" in security protocols and economic areas such as product
&lt;br/&gt;safety.
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&lt;br/&gt;Little known in Canada, the accord, if implemented, could affect
&lt;br/&gt;almost every aspect of Canadian life, from what drugs you can access
&lt;br/&gt;to whether you can board a plane and even what ingredients go into
&lt;br/&gt;your morning cornflakes.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;While you may not have heard of the SPP, you may have heard about
&lt;br/&gt;some of the controversies it has sparked: Canada's adoption of a no-
&lt;br/&gt;fly list, negotiations to lower Canada's pesticide standards to U.S.
&lt;br/&gt;levels or fears the deal will lead to bulk-water exports.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Liberal leader Stephane Dion charged Friday that, "under the veil of
&lt;br/&gt;secrecy," Harper has let the Americans run roughshod over Canada,
&lt;br/&gt;covertly using the SPP to impose a U.S. agenda on Canada. That's not
&lt;br/&gt;what the Liberals intended when they signed the deal, which was
&lt;br/&gt;meant to give Canada a stronger voice in Washington, not turn it
&lt;br/&gt;into an"imitation" of the U.S., he says.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Maude Barlow of the Council of Canadians says it is big business
&lt;br/&gt;that is calling the shots, pushing aggressively for the
&lt;br/&gt;harmonization -- and downgrading -- of everything from security
&lt;br/&gt;norms to food standards, in a move that will lead to
&lt;br/&gt;the "integration by stealth" of the three nations.
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&lt;br/&gt;"Canadians would be shocked" if they knew the true scope of the SPP,
&lt;br/&gt;says Barlow, whose Ottawa-based organization represents about
&lt;br/&gt;100,000 members.
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&lt;br/&gt;Fringe groups such as the Canadian Action Party and the Minutemen in
&lt;br/&gt;the U.S. go further, arguing the SPP is a plot to sweep all three
&lt;br/&gt;nations into a North American union.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"Where are they getting this stuff?" says Thomas d'Aquino, head of
&lt;br/&gt;the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, which helped launch the
&lt;br/&gt;SPP.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"This is a very nitty-gritty, workaday initiative" to make trade
&lt;br/&gt;safer and more efficient through such steps as expanding border
&lt;br/&gt;crossings and information-sharing programs on plant and animal
&lt;br/&gt;safety, he says.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=4b1bc1a3-32be-
&lt;br/&gt;4aac-af56-5636db7ef5a3
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;continued:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Will Canada become the 51st state?
&lt;br/&gt;The Security and Prosperity Partnership: what it's all about and
&lt;br/&gt;what it could mean for Canadians
&lt;br/&gt;Kelly Patterson, CanWest News Service
&lt;br/&gt;Published: Saturday, August 18, 2007
&lt;br/&gt;Other SPP projects are no-brainers, such as plans to cooperate in
&lt;br/&gt;fighting West Nile virus and flu pandemics.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As for fears of a North American union, "anyone who believes that is
&lt;br/&gt;smoking something," says d'Aquino.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;This weekend, the debate hits the headlines across the nation as the
&lt;br/&gt;three heads of state and their advisers converge on Montebello,
&lt;br/&gt;Que., 60 kilometres east of Ottawa, for the SPP's third annual
&lt;br/&gt;summit.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Email to a friend
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Printer friendly
&lt;br/&gt;Font: ****Thousands of protesters are also expected to descend on
&lt;br/&gt;the area, hoping to confront the "Three Banditos" about a deal they
&lt;br/&gt;say is a secretive sellout to the cowboy capitalism and militarism
&lt;br/&gt;of the superpower to Canada's south.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"We always hoped from the outset we could broaden it beyond
&lt;br/&gt;security," says Roland Paris, a University of Ottawa professor who
&lt;br/&gt;worked as an adviser in the Privy Council Office when the SPP was
&lt;br/&gt;launched. He adds that the SPP's architects hoped the "regular high-
&lt;br/&gt;level meetings" would help "overcome bureaucratic inertia."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;SOVEREIGNTY UNDER FIRE
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But they also helped big business and its government allies bypass
&lt;br/&gt;both the public and Parliament to push through a host of
&lt;br/&gt;controversial changes without debate or scrutiny, critics charge.
&lt;br/&gt;They say the accord has enshrined and fast-tracked a longstanding
&lt;br/&gt;effort to quietly harmonize Canadian programs with those of the U.S.
&lt;br/&gt;in everything from military policy to food and drug standards.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"The SPP is an unacceptable, closed-door process with enormous
&lt;br/&gt;implications for Canadians," says NDP trade critic Peter Julian.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Roland Paris scoffs at charges the SPP is a grand design. If
&lt;br/&gt;anything, he says, it is a timid collection of piddling efforts that
&lt;br/&gt;has become bogged down in bureaucratic red tape.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"This is not a political vision of the future of the continent. If
&lt;br/&gt;it were, it would be worth the fuss."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Defenders of the SPP dismiss concerns about regulatory change as
&lt;br/&gt;fear-mongering, saying the accord aims only to cut out minor,
&lt;br/&gt;needless variations between the three countries.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The goal is to end the "tyranny of small differences" that can turn
&lt;br/&gt;the border into a theatre of the absurd, says John Kirton, a
&lt;br/&gt;University of Toronto professor and expert in the environmental
&lt;br/&gt;effects of free trade.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If fact, the SPP could dramatically raise standards across North
&lt;br/&gt;America, proponents say, because it promotes information-sharing
&lt;br/&gt;among the three countries.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Scientists would swap data on everything from car safety to new
&lt;br/&gt;chemicals, enabling regulators to better evaluate products and react
&lt;br/&gt;more quickly to public health threats.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The SPP also includes projects with obvious benefits for all three
&lt;br/&gt;nations, such as reducing sulphur in fuel and air pollution from
&lt;br/&gt;ships, and coordinating efforts to curb plant and animal diseases.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;All three governments insist that the three nations remain sovereign
&lt;br/&gt;under the SPP: If Canada doesn't like the way the U.S. does
&lt;br/&gt;something, it can go its own way.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But NDP trade critic Julian is not so sure. He worries about the
&lt;br/&gt;effect regulatory convergence will have in the future.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If, for example, Canada wants to pass new rules to deal with
&lt;br/&gt;greenhouse gases, it could mean "Canada would have to go to
&lt;br/&gt;Washington and lobby for the kinds of standards and protections they
&lt;br/&gt;want," he says.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;© The Vancouver Sun 2007&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2007-08-27T12:32:20Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>do I belong?</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/da16d349-0b49-4463-8bcf-36d1e02424e3" />
    <author>
      <name>heidealist</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/da16d349-0b49-4463-8bcf-36d1e02424e3</id>
    <updated>2008-02-19T05:26:54Z</updated>
    <published>2007-01-12T02:23:46Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hubby &amp;amp; I have been planning to come up for years, and well, we're thinking about this summer.
&lt;br/&gt;Can I come in this tribe &amp;amp; pester people with questions of what the moving process is like &amp;amp; how it is up there?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2007-01-12T02:23:46Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Working in Canada</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Thiago</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/c73918cf-5a3d-4868-b25f-c4fa0f10852d</id>
    <updated>2008-01-03T03:02:16Z</updated>
    <published>2007-10-24T20:14:00Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hey everybody,
&lt;br/&gt;I was wondering if anyone had any advice for someone interested in moving to montreal from the USA.  I speak French and have a BA so my main worry is getting a work permit.  My only real experience is being a waiter and I have no real ties to Canada.  If it isn't possible for waiters to get a labour market opinion, can I apply as a university student in Canada even if I am only taking classes and not persuing a degree?  Any help at all would be appreciated.  Thanks a bunch.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Thiago</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-10-24T20:14:00Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Canadian Candy</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/86827cb8-f86c-42bf-966a-8f34afe66496" />
    <author>
      <name>evil_fish</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/86827cb8-f86c-42bf-966a-8f34afe66496</id>
    <updated>2007-11-18T22:31:10Z</updated>
    <published>2007-11-13T12:44:31Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I like smarties.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I always have.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It was not until recently that I discovered that they were made in Canada.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;They are sooo much better than swee-tarts.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2007-11-13T12:44:31Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Devastated, turned away at the border...</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/f2a8ab5c-4347-4452-bdc2-85555144c9b9" />
    <author>
      <name>I-Storm</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/f2a8ab5c-4347-4452-bdc2-85555144c9b9</id>
    <updated>2007-10-07T17:16:30Z</updated>
    <published>2007-08-27T20:04:58Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Well, here's an explanation of my lil' bit of hell I experienced just a couple weeks ago. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;For a couple months now, I've had a 7-day vacation planned in Montreal. My childhood friend asked me 
&lt;br/&gt;to join him at the VANS Warped Tour. He's good friends w/ one of the bands that's playing. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I was even gonna meet-up w/ some new MTL friends; we met through a fellow musician buddy in NYC. 
&lt;br/&gt;These guys invited me to do a guest DJ spot + lay down some Flute tracks in the studio. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And of course I was gonna spend a couple days w/ my ex-girlfriend + her family (who I've never met in-person). 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;After getting all the proper I.D. + made Hotel arrangements, I take a 10-hour train all the way to the border. 
&lt;br/&gt;Each &amp;amp; everyone's credentials are checked which took a long-ass time. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I was red-flagged &amp;amp; removed from the train; denied entrance to CANADA &amp;amp; turned away at the border!!! 
&lt;br/&gt;Apparently, my DUI charge from 2004 is considered a BIG DEAL over there... 
&lt;br/&gt;as is almost ANY type of offense greater than spitting on the sidewalk. It was pretty devastating, 
&lt;br/&gt;mostly 'cuz I was caught completely off-guard &amp;amp; exhausted (I broke night on the eve before the train ride). 
&lt;br/&gt;Besides, I've paid my debt for this mistake already -- 
&lt;br/&gt;yet I'm being punished again! I was told that this happens practically EVERYDAY out there, but that was little consolation.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It was really difficult to remain calm after hours &amp;amp; hours of bureaucratic nonsense &amp;amp; asshole attitude 
&lt;br/&gt;(from the Border Patrol). The U.S. officers TOTALLY acted like dickheads! I had to wait hours  
&lt;br/&gt;for a Charter Bus to allow me a seat back to NYC (another 8 hours). In the end, I've lost almost $1000 on the vacation + got "put to the test" emotionally speaking. I missed out on some great opportunities &amp;amp; some much needed R&amp;amp;R. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Yeah, it sux, &amp;amp; I'm not even eligible to approach the Canadian Consulate (in NYC) to see if they'll grant me 
&lt;br/&gt;entrance until 2009. And it's possible that I won't be allowed into Canada until 2014 or later!!!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The rules of travel re: PASSPORTS (trust me... I did EXTENSIVE research on this subject!):
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If traveling by Airplane, you must have a passport or at the very least have an application that has been approved for processing. 
&lt;br/&gt;You must prove the status of your application with a certified document from the Official Passport Agency. 
&lt;br/&gt;This law changes next year; in which you must possess a passport in order to  travel by air outside of the Country.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If traveling by land, sea, or fresh water you're only required to provide a State-issued I.D. (Driver's license) 
&lt;br/&gt;+ an original copy of your Official Birth Certificate. This law will most likely change next year as well; 
&lt;br/&gt;Mandatory Passports for every type of travel.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Life will never be the same after 9/11 -- The problem is, I don't believe it happened the way the Bush administration says it did. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Outlawfully Yours, DM in da PM
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2007-08-27T20:04:58Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Visas?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>kimblueyes</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/911222f4-db51-43d6-b365-43ed7571733c</id>
    <updated>2007-09-12T19:49:53Z</updated>
    <published>2007-08-27T18:00:53Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I may be moving to Nelson, BC in a couple of months. I have been researching the different types of visas (visitor, work, etc.). I think I would prefer to apply for a visitor's visa. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I was wondering if/ how they check your money situation (you are supposed to prove you can pay for your stay, the gov't website says), check your health (will I need to have a physical done?), and how they look into seeing that you really will plan on returning to your own country (I will not have a home or job to return to, for example--I do not actually plan on returning). 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I would be getting married to a Canadian and then applying for permanent resident status, which I understand can take around two years to achieve. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Any help you could provide, especially about how to enter and stay in the country legally (or at least believably legal!) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! It all seems rather complicated. I'm trying to figure out the best way to go about this transition.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2007-08-27T18:00:53Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Moving to Canada? What about annexation instead?</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/8f734199-5f16-4a6d-80fb-1acb54db273a" />
    <author>
      <name>Alexander</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/8f734199-5f16-4a6d-80fb-1acb54db273a</id>
    <updated>2007-08-27T12:29:45Z</updated>
    <published>2005-07-01T18:29:09Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hello
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;For years I have not called myself "Amerikan" or aa "US-Amerikan", but instead I identify myself as a Cascadian.  You ask "where the hell is Cascadia?" Cascadia is the "Pacific NorthWest" and specifically its not a "nation-state", but is a bioregion that currently transcends political borders.  Ok now you may ask "what the hell is a bioregion?" ... well it is some geographers and environmentally aware people explain as:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“Bioregions are geographic areas having common characteristics of soil, watershed, climate, native plants and animals that exist within the whole planetary biosphere as unique and contributive parts.... A bioregion refers both to geographical terrain and a terrain of consciousness -- to a place and the ideas that have developed about how to live in that place.... A bioregion can be determined initially by use of climatology, physiography, animal and plant geography, natural history and other descriptive natural sciences. The final boundaries of a bioregion, however, are best described by the people who have lived within it, through human recognition of the realities of living in place.... there is a distinctive resonance among living things and the factors that influence them which occurs specifically within each separate part of the planet. Discovering and describing that resonance is a way to describe a bioregion.” http://www.olywa.net/speech/may99/mccloskey.html
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Cascadia is a bioregion encompassing the territories of the Alaskan Panhandle, British Columbia, Idaho, Washington, Oregon, northern California and western Montana as well as very small portions of other near by states and provinces.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Cascadia is geographically the Columbia River Watershed and the area around the Cascade Range. Cascadia's farthest extent is from northern California to the Alaskan Panhandle and from the Pacific to the Continental Divide. Cascadia Minor tends to be the states of northern California, Oregon and Washington with the province of British Columbia. The Scottish naturalist David Douglas named the Cascade mountain range after the powerful waterfalls that carved out this land and gave it so much biomass. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So why not instead of all of us south Cascadians flocking to Canada we could suggest Oregon, Washington, northern California, Idaho and western Montana with the Alaskan panhandle re-unify with British Columbia as part of Canada.  This region was once considered a one region before the US under expansionist policies by president Jackson and Polk divided the region.  It could be a campaign like after the fall of the Berlin Wall to re-unify Germany: "Re-unification of Cascadia!"  Just imagine Seattle, Portland, San Fransisco, Vancouver (BC), Victoria and the whole Cascadian bioregion (rural and urban) working together either as Cascadia or under a Canadian Confederation.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;cascadians.tribe.net&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2005-07-01T18:29:09Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>To Canada or Death!</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Painglass</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/3dc06070-eb6f-4c19-9d57-611d7580c178</id>
    <updated>2007-08-10T22:57:30Z</updated>
    <published>2007-08-10T22:57:30Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;...Or something like that. I am ready, now that I am nearly done with college, to start the paperwork to move back to Canada on a more permenate basis (I was a student living in Vancouver for a while). How do I begin the process? Do i need an immigration lawyer? How much will it all cost in the end (can a [recent] college graduate afford it)? What I'd love to go is move there now, today, yesterday!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2007-08-10T22:57:30Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>North American Union</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/43c1e8f9-b2b4-47eb-8ac9-11828e4adc0f" />
    <author>
      <name>tserafina</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/43c1e8f9-b2b4-47eb-8ac9-11828e4adc0f</id>
    <updated>2007-08-10T18:34:10Z</updated>
    <published>2007-08-10T03:24:43Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I just got this message from a friend.  What do you make of this?  Well, if anything, immigration should be easier!?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"In just over a month's time, on August 20, the most powerful president in the world will be arriving in Montebello, Quebec for a two-day conference. President George W. Bush will be meeting with Stephen Harper and their Mexican counterpart, Felipe Calderon. So far, the silence from the Canadian and American media has been deafening.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Talk to 90% of people on the street and they won't know about this upcoming conference, and if by a slim chance they do, they won't know the purpose of the meeting or why the leaders of Canada, United States and Mexico are meeting in the dog days of summer under what amounts to a veil of secrecy.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;So, what's this upcoming conference all about, and why are the newspapers, radio and television keeping silent about it?
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;The purpose of the upcoming conference is to ratify the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, which was initiated by Bush, Martin and Fox in 2005 in Waco, Texas. Essentially, this so-called 'partnership' will result in what the politicians refer to as 'continental integration'-newspeak for a North American Union- and basically a harmonization of 100's of regulations, policies and laws.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;In layman's terms, it means that once this 'partnership' has been ratified which is a fait accompli; we will be following in the footsteps of the European Union. It will mean that Canada will become part of the North American Union by 2010, and that our resources, agricultural, health and environment issues, to name a few, will be controlled not by Canada, but by the government of the North American Union.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;A huge 'NAFTA' highway, one quarter of a mile wide, is already being built in Texas, where private land is being expropriated, and will eventually reach the Manitoba border.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Water will be the 'issue' of this century, as more than 25 states in the U.S. are currently in desperate need. Where do you think they will get the water they need?
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;The United States is already guaranteed 60% of our natural gas resources from NAFTA, which mean that even during emergencies when we need energy, we will have to import it, while we are forced to export gas to the U.S. This is just one example of how Canada is being shortchanged, and it's only going to get worse.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Why has there been absolutely NO public consultation on the biggest issue (North American Union) facing Canadians since Confederation? Why isn't Guy Lauzon, our local MP for Stormont, Dundas and South Glengarry, holding town hall meetings, bringing in cabinet ministers and explaining how the emerging North American Union will affect our Canadian way of life? Ask the citizens of Canada for their feedback. Isn't that how democracy is supposed to work?
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Folks, I suggest that Mr. Lauzon isn't even aware of the SPP or the North American Union, which explains why the Conservative government has denied all Canadians information to which they are entitled. If he does have something to say about it, then let him raise the issue in our riding.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Furthermore, the example of the North American Union illustrates that our government claims to be democratic, but in fact, does it act like one, or does it prefer to make the big decisions at committee level behind closed doors, while masking its real intentions?
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;The ratification of the SPP, and the emergence of the North American Union have been organized entirely by government committees and private enterprise. I refer readers to my website at _www.realitycheck.typepad.com_ &amp;amp;lt;http://www.realitycheck.typepad.com/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;for further information on the North American Union.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;If our citizenry allows the North American Union to come into existence, then our way of life will change drastically, for the years to come. With privatization of our resources, increased foreign ownership, and a Canadian government with less and less authority, our children and grandchildren will be come 'North Americans' and our quality of life will drastically decline.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;The founding fathers of Canada must be rolling over in their graves."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kevin Parkinson
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2235.shtml&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>tserafina</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-08-10T03:24:43Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Banking in Canada.......Credit Unions.....</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/7686d92f-54c7-45e2-a98b-e981fe83f946" />
    <author>
      <name>Jan</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/7686d92f-54c7-45e2-a98b-e981fe83f946</id>
    <updated>2007-07-19T22:59:01Z</updated>
    <published>2006-05-25T21:23:43Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I'm assuming I'm going to have to get a Canadian bank account.  In the states I prefer credit unions as they are cheaper and have fewer fees.  Do you need to be a member of some special group to join a credit union in Canada?  The web sites all seem to suggest that you need to 'buy shares', that there is some sort of initial fee up front for being a member.  I'm not familiar with this approach.  In the states typically you join a credit union affiliated with your work place or college or whatever.  Any info on this?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-05-25T21:23:43Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Seeking the wisdom of fellow US countrymen and their work permit experiences</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/6f8c8e20-2169-4183-8856-b4ff57159e77" />
    <author>
      <name>Jason</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/6f8c8e20-2169-4183-8856-b4ff57159e77</id>
    <updated>2007-07-19T05:47:38Z</updated>
    <published>2007-07-19T05:47:38Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I'm looking at a job opportunity in Toronto right now, and I could REALLY use some insight from any Americans working in Canada now on how they went through the immigration or work permit process. I HAVE been reading the CIC site thoroughly, but these questions relate more to people's actual experiences:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Did you initially get accepted under a Work Permit? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Did NAFTA allow you to forego a HRSDC labor opinion? From what I understand while reading the CIC site guidelines a position qualifying under Appendix 1603.D.1 does not require an HRSDC labor opinion. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;How long did it take to get approved for your work permit? I'm going to try and put together the necessary paperwork ASAP, and I'd like to get a rough idea of time frame so I can create a time table for myself. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Were you able to extend your stay by applying for Work Permit extensions? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Did you enter the country on a Work Permit and successfully transition to being accepted for Permanent Residence? I want to make sure that I'm not miss-representing my intent with Imigration and hurting my chances for PR status if I file for Permanent Residency soon after getting a Work Permit and moving. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If you did go from Work Permit to PR status, did you find the process happening any faster because of the existing job, and continuing employment? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Thanks! Any help is greatly appericiated!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-07-19T05:47:38Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Introduce Yourself!</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/4a7f45fd-c96a-458b-966d-f5173d4bc5b1" />
    <author>
      <name>brandybug</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/4a7f45fd-c96a-458b-966d-f5173d4bc5b1</id>
    <updated>2007-07-19T05:26:16Z</updated>
    <published>2004-10-14T17:13:34Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;let's start off with some intros, eh?  (argh!  i can't stop saying that....)
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;so i started this tribe after being part of the Vancouver tribes for sometime, which i love, but still feel a little left out of them anyway.  i'm always having this internal discourse on the binary of either side of the border, which i'm sure comes out in these tribes and annoys some canadians.  hence, the tribe.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;anyway, my husband grew up in vancouver, and now he teaches at ubc.  we came from los angeles a year ago, and we're going back and forth between LA and Vancouver a lot!  i'm liking vancouver a lot (i even like the rain), despite the complexities with taxes, statuses, etc., that comes along with border crossing.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;what's it like for other americans in other parts of canada?  are there other american vancouverites here?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>brandybug</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2004-10-14T17:13:34Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>it's official!!</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/8d15b7e3-4a23-4b69-8ecd-17f832db4670" />
    <author>
      <name>bleu</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/8d15b7e3-4a23-4b69-8ecd-17f832db4670</id>
    <updated>2007-05-15T18:46:36Z</updated>
    <published>2005-04-27T05:50:43Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;we just got notice from our lawyers, the applications have been sent and the buffalo office officially has them. We are officially in process, fees paid. 
&lt;br/&gt;YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Now just one or two more years for the paperwork to go through...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Bleu&lt;/div&gt;
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			- 5 replies
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    <dc:creator>bleu</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-04-27T05:50:43Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Some questions on moving to Victoria.</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/894cc5cb-32c7-4857-9a69-ac7fb644ed09" />
    <author>
      <name>Kjel</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/894cc5cb-32c7-4857-9a69-ac7fb644ed09</id>
    <updated>2007-05-14T17:12:55Z</updated>
    <published>2007-05-14T17:12:55Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hello,
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;My wife is considering doing a PhD and the University of Victoria and I would be going as a trailing spouse. I have a few questions that I hope someone out there might be able to answer.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;1. I am a very employable computer programmer, in the U.S. that is. What is the job market like in the technology sector and what are some of the challenges for finding a job? I believe that being the spouse of a university student takes care of the work permit.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;2. Any tips on finding a Canadian tech job?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;3. Anything that I might need to know that I might not know to ask about moving to Canada?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Thank you in advance!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kjel&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Kjel</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-05-14T17:12:55Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Retiring to Canada....unusual direction....older student thinking about permanently residing in Canada.....</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/2eb284c8-6766-4075-83ee-9f292df2acc2" />
    <author>
      <name>Jan</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/2eb284c8-6766-4075-83ee-9f292df2acc2</id>
    <updated>2007-05-05T00:56:27Z</updated>
    <published>2007-05-04T14:58:44Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;The two ways that I am familiar with getting permanent residence/citizenship are 1.  Have a company hire you/prove that you have unique skills/get a job  or 2. Marry a Canadian.  I am not interested in working and am an early retiree.  So I plan to go to art school at Emily Carr in 2008 or 2009 and start out as a student.  Are there any other ways to obtain ciitzenship if you are no longer pursuing a career?  One friend told me that you have to have $400K in assets, any ideas about this?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Thanks!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-05-04T14:58:44Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Canadian work permit denied to US citizen</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/830fee54-bd46-461a-b50b-f33b9d9498d2" />
    <author>
      <name>tania_sasha</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/830fee54-bd46-461a-b50b-f33b9d9498d2</id>
    <updated>2007-04-30T01:02:01Z</updated>
    <published>2007-04-24T22:18:28Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Dear Friends, I need your advice! I am a US citizen, who has applied for a work permit in Canada under NAFTA agreement, under the "professionals clause" (Appendix 1603.D.1 - Professionals). On the time I have applied i was already in Canada (I came here with my Canadian fiancé). So i was told to send my application complete with a letter from a potential employer (who keeps calling and asking when I can start working - i am a graphic designer) to Buffalo Center. After 6 months of waiting I received a letter from Buffalo asking me to send to them again the same letter from the employer and... a proof of my legal status in Canada. Well, I sent them the updated letter and for the proof of legal status, i thought - what kind of legal status can a US citizen have in Canada if she exactly applies for a status. So i figured, i was a legal tourist in Canada and sent them a photocopy of my US passport (I have traveled to New York 2 months ago, so I was not overstaying in Canada). And so - two weeks later I receive a rejection "because I failed to provide a proof of my legal status". I turned to the Immigration lawyer, who said: No problem - 3 weeks and 3000$ and the permit will be yours! But according to NAFTA agreement I was simply eligible to receive the permit. I am totally at lost and don't know where to turn. :roll: If you can advise me, I'll be ever so thankful, God bless you. signed: Une Américaine perdue au Canada &lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>tania_sasha</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-04-24T22:18:28Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>permanent resident vs. immigration</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/78296014-0a96-4849-914e-569bfbfcf973" />
    <author>
      <name>heidealist</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/78296014-0a96-4849-914e-569bfbfcf973</id>
    <updated>2007-04-23T23:40:09Z</updated>
    <published>2007-01-26T02:21:04Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Anyone have input on comparing the 2 processes? In order to do permanent resident you still have to have a work visa and the settlement funds, right?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I think I can handle the settlement fuinds, but that AND the 6-8thou for legal fees puts things off for a long while...&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>heidealist</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-01-26T02:21:04Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>divorce question ( related to canada )</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/8cca7b09-fcd6-4e33-8b47-883fb14844e5" />
    <author>
      <name>SavageGrace</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/8cca7b09-fcd6-4e33-8b47-883fb14844e5</id>
    <updated>2007-04-23T23:33:53Z</updated>
    <published>2006-09-07T00:48:29Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Obviously this isn't "for" me... as I'm not married
&lt;br/&gt;via a conversation I  got a little curious about something
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But have gone threw a divorce in the US. I'm familiar with how it works ( in my state anyhow ). I do realize no matter were in the world you are divorce can take years and more in nasty cases. But for an uncontested divorce were I am anyhow it takes about 2 months if things go smoothly by the time you get the judges signature and then the proper amount of required days pass afterwards before it's official. I think it's 30 days here locally  "after" the judge decides and signs for that.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Does anyone know if it's similar in most parts of Canada ?  I do know there is a one year initial separation requirement in basic "no fault" cases before filing. But the time from filing till it's official is what I am wondering about.
&lt;br/&gt;for uncontested that is.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Regards
&lt;br/&gt;Richard
&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>SavageGrace</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-09-07T00:48:29Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Immigration</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/24f50f3e-fe7d-4cd7-9085-e9dea5aa59a0" />
    <author>
      <name>Megan</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/24f50f3e-fe7d-4cd7-9085-e9dea5aa59a0</id>
    <updated>2007-04-23T23:18:12Z</updated>
    <published>2007-02-27T18:12:43Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Do any of you folks have any advice for immigrating to Canada?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;My main question that I'm wondering is if I should try to get a work visa before going, or should I go on a visitor's permit and find a job that will sponsor my stay? Are Canadians more liberal about having the requsite paperwork for working than Americans? I'm not really sure that I would meet the minimum amount of money needed for immigration at this time, so I'd like to try to find a way around it. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If I enrolled in school and got a student visa, would I be able to get a work visa too to be able to support myself while I'm there?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Any wisdom would be fab! Thanks!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-02-27T18:12:43Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>the actual move</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/10c01318-2f02-4080-9270-d5734032e913" />
    <author>
      <name>heidealist</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/10c01318-2f02-4080-9270-d5734032e913</id>
    <updated>2007-02-17T16:41:27Z</updated>
    <published>2007-01-14T16:31:26Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;so, when you went up...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;did you have jobs first?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;did you have a place lined up?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;did you start the immigration process right away or go up with visas?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;do they stop you with your uhaul at the border &amp;amp; look through all your stuff?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>heidealist</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-01-14T16:31:26Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>American's in Canada, Support Barack Obama!</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/311e3339-66b8-4f6b-a6a4-a8fb1c3108ce" />
    <author>
      <name />
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/311e3339-66b8-4f6b-a6a4-a8fb1c3108ce</id>
    <updated>2007-02-11T20:34:02Z</updated>
    <published>2007-02-11T20:34:02Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I just created a group on www.barackobama.com for American's in Canada that support his campaign. Let's make some real changes!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator />
    <dc:date>2007-02-11T20:34:02Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Help on the moving process?</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/2cf46aaa-a5ae-4c65-ac9d-6a1074df8cc5" />
    <author>
      <name>spankerswirl</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/2cf46aaa-a5ae-4c65-ac9d-6a1074df8cc5</id>
    <updated>2006-10-09T15:01:49Z</updated>
    <published>2004-11-07T22:17:42Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Please excuse the cross-posting if you are in other similar Tribes, but I, and several of my friends, are fairly desperate to leave the Bush-run land of the formerly free. Any help would be appreciated for the basic processes of moving.  &lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>spankerswirl</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2004-11-07T22:17:42Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>SIN Timeline?</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/018f1a31-7cbc-4977-87da-4e5d1bf8ca4c" />
    <author>
      <name>Echota</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/018f1a31-7cbc-4977-87da-4e5d1bf8ca4c</id>
    <updated>2006-10-09T02:52:26Z</updated>
    <published>2006-10-09T02:52:26Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;For those of you who have immigrated, how long was it from the time you submitted your landed fee until you received your SIN? And how did it work exactly?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Echota</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-10-09T02:52:26Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Information</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/72035363-6122-4eeb-ae5c-1ca565490ba1" />
    <author>
      <name>Carol</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/72035363-6122-4eeb-ae5c-1ca565490ba1</id>
    <updated>2006-10-09T02:34:59Z</updated>
    <published>2005-03-14T14:39:31Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;As a Canadian living in the States, I find it strange that some are finding it hard to get information.
&lt;br/&gt;In my experience, the Canadian government is far more transparent than the American.
&lt;br/&gt;Just go to the Canadian government web site and most of the information people are looking for is there. 
&lt;br/&gt;The Canadian government does not hide the information behind red tape or cloaking devises. It is all pretty easy to find.....
&lt;br/&gt;now if someone could explain how to find information here in the States without a lawyer......
&lt;br/&gt;Planning to move ack to Canada in the next two years, I can't wait!!!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-03-14T14:39:31Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>So How Much Is Gas?</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/b728a475-f74e-4b40-b32e-82b5d6bee845" />
    <author>
      <name>evil_fish</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/b728a475-f74e-4b40-b32e-82b5d6bee845</id>
    <updated>2006-09-02T18:50:48Z</updated>
    <published>2006-07-06T12:33:01Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Just wondering, how much does a gallon of gas cost in Canada?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Presently, here in Ohio, I see $2.79 a gallon.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>evil_fish</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-07-06T12:33:01Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Criminal Inadmissibility - Rehabilitation Process</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/8b9f559c-a105-4f31-a391-67ed18d0f07c" />
    <author>
      <name>SavageGrace</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/8b9f559c-a105-4f31-a391-67ed18d0f07c</id>
    <updated>2006-08-25T16:58:08Z</updated>
    <published>2006-06-28T21:12:18Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;As in the fallowing link
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/inadmissibility.html
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Has anyone had to go threw this before even thinking about entering Canada?
&lt;br/&gt;To visit or otherwise.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I read one person someplace on the web  that stated it had been 16 months and still no approval or denial either way. And very few if any other first hand accounts with much insite to them.
&lt;br/&gt;The lites suddenly go dim hearing that...as I happen to be in love with a Canadian woman.
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&lt;br/&gt;It's funny how ones past truly does fallow them till the end...and ocasionaly run up and bite you on the bum.
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&lt;br/&gt;Anything at all is greatly appreciated.
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&lt;br/&gt;Regards
&lt;br/&gt;Richard
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;PS..  I didn't see an introduction thread or anything... my apologies for making my first post a question.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>SavageGrace</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-06-28T21:12:18Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>a voice in the darkness,,,,,,,,(smileing)</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Sitting Bull</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/754cd764-33ed-473f-a6e8-59659d87e977</id>
    <updated>2006-08-25T15:38:20Z</updated>
    <published>2006-08-25T15:38:20Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Is anyone alive out there????????&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2006-08-25T15:38:20Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>the greater partitioning of Cascadia: border divisions</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Alexander</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/c134ce73-9e51-49c5-bcbf-ba603d06ef95</id>
    <updated>2006-07-05T13:10:50Z</updated>
    <published>2006-07-05T13:10:50Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;the greater partitioning of Cascadia: border divisions
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&lt;br/&gt;   I have posted before that Cascadia is becoming two very distict Cascadias as the US and Canadian governments administrate differently, as economies shift and as world's most longest and peaceful border becomes more militarized.  The following articles illustrate the continuing division that the Amerikan expansionist president Polk started back in the 1840s:
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&lt;br/&gt;CASCADIA Mayors plea for delay Cross-border impacts feared if U.S. forges ahead with security crackdown 
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&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;By Jeff Nagel
&lt;br/&gt;Black Press
&lt;br/&gt;Jul 04 2006 
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&lt;br/&gt;Lower Mainland mayors joined counterparts from Washington, Oregon and Idaho Friday in urging U.S. officials to delay plans to force all visitors to carry passports. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The motion passed at the Cascadia Mayors Council meeting in Surrey after the 35 Pacific northwest mayors heard forecasts that tighter border security will hurt cross-border tourism and trade. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The U.S. government has set Jan. 1, 2007 as the date passports will be required to enter the U.S. by air or water, and Jan. 1, 2008 for land crossings. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In the meantime, a group of U.S. senators is trying to pass an amendment that would delay implementation of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative until Jan. 1, 2009. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Most residents on both sides of the border don’t have passports and many of them don’t know about the planned changes, said Mary Mahon-Jones, with the B.C. Council of Tourism Associations. 
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&lt;br/&gt;She cited polls that show a third of Canadians and Americans who don’t hold passports say they don’t plan to cross the border again if they have to get one. 
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&lt;br/&gt;“The process of getting a passport is, frankly, a colossal hassle, at least in Canada,” Mahon-Jones said. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The more Americans and Canadians do get passports, she added, the more they may be tempted to travel to more distant countries, rather than just across the 49th parallel. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;American visits to Canada are already down sharply this year even though the passport rule isn’t in force yet. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts said a delay would buy time to pursue alternatives, such as creating a different identification card or upgrading driver’s licences to include extra security data. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“We are very aware and cognizant of the security issue,” Watts said. 
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&lt;br/&gt;“But we also want to make sure the implementation of this is done right.” 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It’s not just tourism that’s at stake. 
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&lt;br/&gt;All trucks carrying goods that cross the border would have to have accepted identification. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And the passport rule could impact many businesses located in Surrey, White Rock, Langley and Abbotsford which take advantage of the proximity of the border. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“With Surrey being the largest border crossing in Western Canada and the second largest in the country, those issues are front and centre in what we’re dealing with,” Watts said. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Anthony Welcher, the U.S. State Department’s director of intergovernmental affairs, told the mayors plans call for passports to be mandatory for all travellers – even children. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;He admitted that may drive up costs for families and deter tourism, but said the U.S. plans reduced passport fees to ensure a family of four won’t pay more than $100. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;He defended the requirement, saying it will help protect children from cross-border kidnappings. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“It is a burden. But it will help keep our children safe and secure.” 
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&lt;br/&gt;Welcher said Canadians shouldn’t hold out hope the passport plan will be shelved. 
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&lt;br/&gt;“Honestly, I’ve got to say it’s tough,” he said. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“Barring an amendment, we’re just going to have to deal with it.” 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Cascadia mayors’ motion backs a similar call by Premier Gordon Campbell and Washington Gov. Chris Gregoire to delay implementation until after the 2010 Winter Olympics while other options are pursued. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Senator Gerry St. Germaine said both countries must work to ensure anti-terror measures don’t unnecessarily impede the millions of people who cross the border and billions of dollars in cross-border trade and investment. 
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&lt;br/&gt;“These new requirements will have long term implications,” he said. 
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&lt;br/&gt;“We must act very, very carefully.” 
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;found at http://www.peacearchnews.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=44&amp;amp;cat=23&amp;amp;id=683031&amp;amp;more=
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&lt;br/&gt;Biking to Canada and back (if the Border Patrol lets us in)  
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&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;By WILLIAM MARVEL
&lt;br/&gt;For the Monitor 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;July 05. 2006 8:00AM 
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&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Among the numerous and sometimes conflicting doctrines we try to observe in my household is that of treading lightly on the Earth. That is difficult to accomplish in a society that seems dedicated to waste and self-indulgence, where the only feasible means of long-distance travel is the automobile and the only way to feel good about oneself is to buy something new. 
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&lt;br/&gt;It is also a difficult concept to pass on to children whose friends race here and there in parent-purchased cars, communicating continually on parent-purchased cell phones. And it becomes especially hard to convey when there is work to do in the garden or at the woodpile. Nonetheless we attempt to set an example through consumer restraint, household economy and energy conservation. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Energy conservation was one of the main motives behind our choice of a vacation this year: bicycling to Canada. That isn't as rigorous a feat as most Americans might suppose, for the nearest border crossing lies only about 110 highway miles from our door. Avoiding deadly highways requires more mileage, but the round trip still falls within a week's easy cycling, during which we can ignore traffic jams and oil-industry gouging. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The flatter terrain of southern Maine might have been a preferable choice for bicycling. The coast is lovely, but it is usually packed with people from places no one wants to live, and by their mass presence they often make Maine feel like another one of those unpleasant places. There is something immensely gratifying about gliding all the way to an international border on such ecologically sound transportation. 
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&lt;br/&gt;There is something appealing about entering Canada by any transportation, for that matter. 
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&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Canada is a different world, at least from Vermont and New Hampshire. The U.S. side stands in the tall conifers of the great northern forest while the Canadian side slips immediately into rolling farmland and occasional, distinct towns, with little of the endless suburban sprawl that ate up so much of the United States so quickly. 
&lt;br/&gt;The abrupt change in language offers an instant taste of Renaissance Europe, at least for those who remember their professor rattling off Middle French, and what can be more therapeutically humbling than trying to recall the vocabulary of a seldom-used language? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The money adds to the European atmosphere. Canadian bills are pieces of art, emblazoned with exotic historical characters and scenes in a variety of colors. The larger denominations are decorated with ornate engravings that mimic embroidery, and in that currency we have a dollar that still makes the American version seem as though it were actually worth something. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;One-way cordiality 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The strongest attraction Canada exerts may be the calm, peaceful atmosphere, which, unfortunately, seems especially foreign anymore. Just note the difference in customs officials. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Since the first time I crossed the Canadian border, I've never had an unpleasant experience with a Canadian customs officer. All of them have been flawlessly courteous, most of them are quite congenial and many are even unarmed. Approaching the U.S. border, meanwhile, usually turns the stomach sour. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Certain U.S. border stations in Vermont long ago developed widespread and well-deserved reputations for rudeness and unwarranted, invasive searches. Since the commencement of King George's War, the U.S. crossings have served as an introduction to American paranoia, with suspicious officers engaging travelers in deceptively inquisitive banter. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On my last re-entry by automobile at Beecher Falls, a pleasant young agent asked me the usual questions and wished me a safe trip, but as I started away, his older colleague interceded, hand-near-holster, and awkwardly initiated a perfectly artificial conversation. When I inadvertently misquoted the New England price of a New York Times, he grew as stern and mistrustful as an East German border guard. Welcome home, Yank. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Canada may have the friendliest customs service, but my belongings have been closely searched at places like the German border, back in the heyday of the Bader-Meinhof gang, without giving me the impression that I was being singled out for scrutiny. The only customs officers who have ever made me feel like a criminal suspect have been our own. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Until recently (and they may be doing it yet), the Border Patrol was stopping traffic nearly 100 miles inside the United States, interrogating citizens and frequently detaining them - probably for such suspicious actions as mispronouncing local nomenclature. 
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&lt;br/&gt;This sort of internal surveillance would be easier to bear if the New Hampshire State Police would establish a similar roadblock along the Massachusetts border and ask everyone to say "Kancamagus." 
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&lt;br/&gt;(William Marvel is an author and historian who lives in South Conway.) 
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&lt;br/&gt;By WILLIAM MARVEL 
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&lt;br/&gt;found at http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060705/REPOSITORY/607050302/1028/OPINION02&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2006-07-05T13:10:50Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>QUEBEC CITY canada - FREE LODGIND - Guys age 18 to 27 - Backpackers</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Pierre</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/8888d6e3-76db-4c77-be9c-a5822f7479eb</id>
    <updated>2006-06-30T17:17:42Z</updated>
    <published>2006-06-30T17:17:42Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;QUEBEC CITY canada 
&lt;br/&gt;FREE ACCOMMODATIONS for BACKPACKERS 
&lt;br/&gt;GUYS age 18 to 28 
&lt;br/&gt;straight, bisexual or gay, 
&lt;br/&gt;who cares if we get along nicely!
&lt;br/&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;QUEBEC CITY gets so many backpackers, 
&lt;br/&gt;the 2 youth hostels very often have NO VACANCY! 
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&lt;br/&gt;So you, backpackers from the world, 
&lt;br/&gt;GUYS, age 18 to 28, 
&lt;br/&gt;are sure to find with me confortable, 
&lt;br/&gt;clean, friendly lodging. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;COME for a few days, a weekend or just for an overnite stay. 
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&lt;br/&gt;REST your bag, freshen up, lay back, relax and enjoy! 
&lt;br/&gt;It's cool here! 
&lt;br/&gt;Shower, bath, 
&lt;br/&gt;fresh bed and all the services. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;No curfew!! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Laundry, good meals prepared together, swim pool, sundeck, air condition, tennis. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I'll show you this beautful historic city, 
&lt;br/&gt;you'll know more in 2 days than 10 days by yourself! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Quebec City is unique! 
&lt;br/&gt;The only city in North America part of the World Heritage by UNESCO. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;French is spoken here but most speak English also. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Great outdoors at 20 minutes. 
&lt;br/&gt;Near university campus (55,000 students). 
&lt;br/&gt;Lots of festivals year-round. 
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&lt;br/&gt;WELCOME BACKPACKERS, TOURISTS, STUDENTS, 
&lt;br/&gt;GUYS age 18 to 28! 
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&lt;br/&gt;I am also a budget traveller, backpacker, 
&lt;br/&gt;it's cool and fun! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I EXPECT YOU TO BE like me, 
&lt;br/&gt;GUYS neat looks, honest, 
&lt;br/&gt;laid back, fun and open-minded, 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;able to assume your personal expenses. No drugs. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Save my infos in your bag. 
&lt;br/&gt;Call ahead or on arrival! 
&lt;br/&gt;No matter what time, early or very late! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;You will be free to go to town by yourself or with me. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;This invitation is a SINCERE FRIENDLY GESTURE 
&lt;br/&gt;to allow you a more affordable, more fun stay! 
&lt;br/&gt;My way of returning the warm invitations I got 
&lt;br/&gt;while backpacking! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;BARGAIN: 
&lt;br/&gt;STAYING WITH ME means A SAVING 
&lt;br/&gt;OF ABOUT $60 A DAY 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;SHOW UP SOON, guys! 
&lt;br/&gt;Keep it up nice till you're ready to come! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;People here speak French but most also speak 
&lt;br/&gt;English and some Spanish. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I expect mature, neat looking, congenial, 
&lt;br/&gt;fun guys age 18 to 28 from around the world! 
&lt;br/&gt;I host many cool backpackers a year already! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Unfortunately it is not as easy for me to host a girl, I am sorry! 
&lt;br/&gt;Call I may offer alternative accommodations 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Good travels! Bon voyage! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;PIERRE, Quebec City 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;EMAIL: sakado25@ gmail. com 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;SKYPE: bonjourquebec
&lt;br/&gt;======================= 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;www.regiondequebec.com 
&lt;br/&gt;www.quebecplus.ca 
&lt;br/&gt;www.montrealplus.ca 
&lt;br/&gt;www.montreal2006.org 
&lt;br/&gt;www.bonjourquebec.com 
&lt;br/&gt;www.allostop.com 
&lt;br/&gt;www.orleansexpress.com 
&lt;br/&gt;www.fugues.com
&lt;br/&gt;www.squirt.org
&lt;br/&gt;www.ulaval.ca
&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  <entry>
    <title>Is there a growing health division between the two Cascadias (US-Amerikan versus Canadian)?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Alexander</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/513837f1-0979-4371-9edb-149b40b421b5</id>
    <updated>2006-06-22T09:50:35Z</updated>
    <published>2006-06-22T09:50:35Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Is there a growing health division between the two Cascadias (US-Amerikan versus Canadian)?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Could living under US Amerikan hegomony be killing us in regards to health and life conditions?  There is a growing health division between the two Cascadias (US-Amerikan versus Canadian). 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;articles with URLs:
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&lt;br/&gt;B.C.'ers live longer, healthier and greener 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;By Jeff Nagel 
&lt;br/&gt;Black Press 
&lt;br/&gt;Jun 21 2006 
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&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We live longer. Drive less. Burn less fuel. And we're not as fat. 
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&lt;br/&gt;On a series of measures, British Columbians outperform Americans who live in the nearby U.S. states of Washington, Oregon and Idaho, according to a new report that will be released today (Wednesday). 
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&lt;br/&gt;The Cascadia Scorecard, published by the Seattle-based Sightline Institute to track trends in the Pacific Northwest, links B.C.'s gains on several fronts to the trend toward more compact and walkable neighbourhoods that's on the rise in Greater Vancouver. 
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&lt;br/&gt;"Sprawling land-use patterns not only promote sedentary lifestyles, but also expose residents to elevated risk of injury or death in car crashes," the report concludes. "Sprawl can be hazardous to health." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Among the findings: 
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&lt;br/&gt;- Twelve per cent of B.C.'s population is obese, compared to 21 per cent in the northwest U.S. states, where obesity is rising four times as fast. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;- B.C. residents spend less time driving in cars and don't die in crashes as often. We drive an average of 8,300 kilometres per year and our rate of auto crash deaths is the lowest in Cascadia (the northwest U.S. plus B.C.). 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;- More Vancouverites (72 per cent) live in compact neighbourhoods than in six other major Pacific Northwest cities. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It all adds up to people living longer, healthier lives north of the border. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As of 2005, British Columbians reached a life expectancy of 81.1 years. That's up three years since 1990 and it's significantly higher than the 78.8 year average in the U.S. northwest. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"If B.C. were a nation, it would have the world's second longest life expectancy, trailing only Japan," the report says. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The main author of the report, Sightline research director Clark Williams-Derry, admits there are other factors behind B.C.'s healthier record. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;He said Canada's universal health care system is a key difference that separates B.C. from the U.S. and improves life expectancies. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Immigration is another possibility. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"The province has welcomed many new wealthy (and healthy) Asian immigrants over the past several decades, which may have boosted the province's longevity statistics," the report says. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"British Columbia also has lower infant mortality rates and fewer homicides than its southern neighbours." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;No single factor or combination of them fully explains the longer life expectancy here. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Instead, Williams-Derry looks to B.C.'s "relatively strong" record in containing urban sprawl. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"Places where you have to drive a lot are places where you have high levels of car crashes and low levels of walking or biking for exercise," he said. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The report says development using smart growth principles - a blend of stores and services in residential areas, creating better street connections and reduced parking requirements - has helped create more livable neighbourhoods where residents don't have to drive as much as in conventional suburbs. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Williams-Derry said old assumptions that suburbs have better air than congested downtowns are also falling away. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Urban cores have become cleaner as pollution standards improve. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Research indicates a greater air threat comes from time spent in traffic breathing other vehicles' exhaust, he said. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"If you're trying to escape to the suburbs to get cleaner air, not only are you not getting cleaner air in your neighbourhood, if you spend a lot of time on the highway you may be undoing some of any benefits you do get." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Cross-border issues will get more scrutiny next week when Surrey hosts the annual conference of the Cascadia Mayors Council. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;found at  www.surreyleader.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=73&amp;amp;cat=23&amp;amp;id=673415&amp;amp;more=____ 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Is your commute a killer? 
&lt;br/&gt;Report shows suburbanites are less healthy than downtowners -- and cars are to blame 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Chad Skelton, Vancouver Sun 
&lt;br/&gt;Published: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 
&lt;br/&gt;People who live in high-density core cities are significantly healthier than residents of sprawling suburbs, says a report being released today by Sightline, an environmental think-tank based in Seattle. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;That's because the extra time suburbanites spend in their cars each week makes them fatter -- increasing their risk of chronic disease -- at the same time that it makes them more likely to be killed or injured in a car crash. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Overall, the Sightline report of the region known as Cascadia -- the northwest coastal region of North America -- found that the average life expectancy in B.C. is 2.5 years longer than in Washington, Oregon and Idaho. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And while that gap is due to a number of factors -- including our public health care system and a recent influx of "wealthy and healthy" immigrants from Asia -- the report argues the difference in the time we spend in our cars is a major factor. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The report say B.C. residents drive about 45 per cent fewer kilometres every year than those in northwest states and, as a result, have one-third fewer traffic fatalities per capita. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;British Columbians drive less, the report found, because our communities are more dense, making it easier to walk, bicycle or take the bus to work than to drive. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Vancouver is by far the most dense city in Cascadia, the report found, with 91 per cent of its residents living in "compact neighbourhoods" (those with more than 12 people per acre), followed by Victoria at 80 per cent. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In comparison, in the county around Portland, Ore. -- often held up as a model of high-density urban living -- 45 per cent of people live in compact neighbourhoods. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In the area around Seattle the figure is just 34 per cent. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"For us [Americans], it's nice to have a place nearby that has shown that it can create a high-quality of life that doesn't sprawl," said Clark Williams-Derry, the lead author of the report. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Vancouver has also seen a far more dramatic increase in high-density living than its U.S. neighbours over the past 15 years -- fuelled mainly by the condo boom in Yaletown and Coal Harbour. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Michael Mortensen, a planner with the city, lives in a two-bedroom condo at Bute and Alberni with his wife, Ellen Clague, and their children Lucas, 4, and Lauryn, 1. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The family doesn't own a car. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Mortensen bikes to work at city hall while Clague works at home some days and takes transit or bikes the rest. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Mortensen conceded that, with two kids, space has become tight. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But he said the benefits of downtown living outweigh the inconveniences. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"It's the life," he said. "It's easy to live and to shop. There's a seawall right next to us. We've got memberships to the aquarium, Science World, the art gallery." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Vancouver Mayor Sam Sullivan said he was proud of the Sightline report's findings. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"I think Vancouver is leading the way in a new paradigm for building cities," he said, saying he'd like to see more high-density development in the city. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;While Vancouver is the most dramatic example of high-density living, B.C. suburbs also fare better than their counterparts south of the border. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"It's kind of a different ball park," said Williams-Derry. "Even a place like Abbotsford, as sprawling as it might seem, is relatively compact by U.S. standards." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Indeed, 45 per cent of Abbotsford residents and 50 per cent of those in Surrey live in compact neighbourhoods. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;That's well behind Vancouver at 91 per cent but it's far better than the Seattle suburb of Pierce County, at 13 per cent, and the Portland suburb of Clackamas County, at just nine per cent. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And high-density suburbs can make a real difference, said Williams-Derry. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Most of the driving people do in a week is not their daily commute, he said, but the combination of all the little trips they take -- to the grocery store, soccer practice and the mall. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"Everyone thinks of the commute as the big thing, but it is the minority of driving," he said. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So while the residents of Vancouver's suburbs may have a nasty commute ahead of them each day, many of them -- especially in more compact communities like White Rock or New Westminster -- have a better chance than U.S. suburbanites of being able to walk to the corner store for milk. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And even slight improvements in walkability can have a profound impact on people's health. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;For example, Williams-Derry said, one study found that an extra two-to-three-minute walk each day is enough to reduce someone's weight by, on average, nearly half a kilogram. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"If you walk more, you're going to weigh less," he said. "The differences are fairly small, but over time they really add up." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; cskelton@png.canwest.com 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Even our suburbs are more compact 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Percentage of population in each community living in "compact neighbourhoods" -- those with at least 12 residents per acre (0.4 hectares). 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;City of Vancouver 91% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;City of Victoria 80% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Richmond 77% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Burnaby 70% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Surrey 50% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Delta 49% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Coquitlam 45% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Abbotsford 45% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;U.S. Suburbs 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Multnomah (Portland) 45% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;King County (Seattle) 34% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Pierce County (suburban Seattle) 13% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Clackamas (suburban Portland) 9% 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;found at   www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=1220dee1-8bcf-4fec-8474-d287361e0eec&amp;amp;k=76567&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2006-06-22T09:50:35Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>financial burden of waiting for papers to process</title>
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      <name>tserafina</name>
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    <updated>2006-05-28T04:28:33Z</updated>
    <published>2006-05-22T20:02:15Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I am Canadian and my fiance is American.  He is planning on moving to Canada after we get married and we are aware that it will take 1 - 2  years for the paperwork to process and that he won't be able to work legally during that time.  He is stressing about being a financial burden to me (I am an artist who doesn't earn alot of money)  and he doesn't have alot of savings to live off of  (he is an artist too!).
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;My question to those who have gone through this:  how did you deal with this?  &lt;/div&gt;
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  <entry>
    <title>A new tribe - Marc Emery</title>
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      <name>chycho</name>
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    <id>http://americancanadian.tribe.net/thread/a92c169e-2ece-4154-afdb-ae0633f28cc0</id>
    <updated>2006-05-11T22:18:40Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;A tribal discussion on the future of Marc Emery, the implications on Canada and the United States governments, and the effects on the citizens of both countries. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://tribes.tribe.net/marcemery
&lt;br/&gt;
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  <entry>
    <title>The biggest con: Democrats &amp;amp; Republicans work together to destroy America</title>
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      <name>Alexander</name>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;The biggest con: Democrats &amp;amp; Republicans work together to destroy America 
&lt;br/&gt;    
&lt;br/&gt;The biggest con: Democrats &amp;amp; Republicans work together to destroy 
&lt;br/&gt;America, part 1 of 3
&lt;br/&gt;Tibor S. Friedman
&lt;br/&gt;Online Journal Contributing Writer
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;May 8, 2006, 00:31
&lt;br/&gt;	
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;America is being destroyed by enemies within and with the help of a 
&lt;br/&gt;corrupted Congress and dumbed down (through public education and the 
&lt;br/&gt;corporate media), apathetic, indifferent and lazy public. The window 
&lt;br/&gt;for action to reverse the fascist trend of the last 50 years is fast 
&lt;br/&gt;closing and only an awake and vigilant citizenry can begin to 
&lt;br/&gt;comprehend and take action against the coming totalitarian 
&lt;br/&gt;devastation we have allowed to manifest in our country.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;September 11, with the perpetrators in the shadow government and 
&lt;br/&gt;clandestine operations, signaled the final stages from the NWO (New 
&lt;br/&gt;World Order) cabal that they are now in a flight forward end game. 
&lt;br/&gt;The elders in this `open conspiracy' for global totalitarian control 
&lt;br/&gt;of the planet, its peoples and resources, David Rockefeller, George 
&lt;br/&gt;H.W. Bush, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Henry Kissinger, Prince Philip, the 
&lt;br/&gt;Rothschild's, and the rest are pushing for some major advancement in 
&lt;br/&gt;their diabolical agenda before their mortal demise.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Briefly, I will attempt to elaborate on three conclusions reached 
&lt;br/&gt;from my research: Democrats and Republicans are two home teams 
&lt;br/&gt;working for the same masters -- the enemies within; corporations and 
&lt;br/&gt;covernment (using the corporate media as their mind control tool) 
&lt;br/&gt;operate as one entity; and the New World Order (using the CFR, 
&lt;br/&gt;Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg, et al) is an open conspiracy 
&lt;br/&gt;to reduce the population of America (and the world), destroy 
&lt;br/&gt;American sovereignty and to create a totalitarian global government.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It will be useful to ask ourselves, while reading this, why our 
&lt;br/&gt;leaders -- both Democrats and Republicans alike -- after having 
&lt;br/&gt;sworn to uphold the Constitution and to protect America and the 
&lt;br/&gt;American people -- have deliberately worked together to destroy 
&lt;br/&gt;America and to what purpose have they made America a pariah in the 
&lt;br/&gt;world?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Duopoly . . . Two sides of the same Coin
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Genocidal chemtrail spraying across the US, begun about 1996-1998 by 
&lt;br/&gt;Democrat Bill Clinton, continues unabated today and the recent 
&lt;br/&gt;passing of the un-PATRIOT Act by the Senate, with an overwhelming 89-
&lt;br/&gt;10 vote in spite of the refusal to enforce it by more than 440 
&lt;br/&gt;cities and counties, are two examples of shared criminality by the 
&lt;br/&gt;duopoly. Although the list of bipartisan crimes against Americans 
&lt;br/&gt;(and the world) is endless they share the common agenda of 
&lt;br/&gt;destroying America and an allegiance to the global banking elites 
&lt;br/&gt;through their membership in the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), 
&lt;br/&gt;Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group. These groups form 
&lt;br/&gt;the trinity in the globalization of the world by members who are 
&lt;br/&gt;involved in the highest levels of government, industry, academia, 
&lt;br/&gt;military and the media.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Mordecai Zember's list of the CFR 2005 membership reflects the cross-
&lt;br/&gt;section of elites that control policy and propaganda in America 
&lt;br/&gt;today. Google also the list of members in the Trilateral Commission 
&lt;br/&gt;for 1973 and 2006; you will find Leonard Woodcock and John Sweeney 
&lt;br/&gt;on it -- leaders of the UAW and AFL-CIO, among others. How about 
&lt;br/&gt;Daniel Ellsberg being a member of the CFR? See "Sheep Dipping CFR 
&lt;br/&gt;style: The Kerry and Ellsberg Cases" for an interesting peek at the 
&lt;br/&gt;CIA.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As someone in the upcoming movie "From Freedom to Fascism" describes 
&lt;br/&gt;the duopoly, it is like the Gambinos and Genovese families who share 
&lt;br/&gt;the power and eat their gnocchi from the same plate. No offense to 
&lt;br/&gt;them; but this is how the system works as both parties advance the 
&lt;br/&gt;interests of the globalists, the International bankers and their 
&lt;br/&gt;corporate proxies. The politicians, who take their share of the 
&lt;br/&gt;plunder, are generally fronts who wrap themselves in the flag and 
&lt;br/&gt;patriotism as it serves their needs to accomplish their assignments 
&lt;br/&gt;received from their bosses behind the curtain -- the elites in the 
&lt;br/&gt;shadow government.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Staging Media Events and the Changing of the Guard
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In America, the corporate media and their counterparts, the liberal 
&lt;br/&gt;gatekeepers, are preparing us for the changing of the guard. 
&lt;br/&gt;Remember six years into Bill Clinton's neoliberal and globalist 
&lt;br/&gt;assault on Americans was the Monica sex circus that the media served 
&lt;br/&gt;up 24/7 to distract us from all the real serious crimes of the 
&lt;br/&gt;Clinton era. Which, in hindsight, seamlessly dovetailed with the 
&lt;br/&gt;Bush 2 agenda after his selection by the Supremes: the Project for a 
&lt;br/&gt;New American Century (PNAC) and the execution of 9/11, the illegal 
&lt;br/&gt;Afghan and Iraq wars (against non-threatening and, in the case of 
&lt;br/&gt;Iraq, sanction weakened, sovereign nations) and continued predator 
&lt;br/&gt;globalization (spreading `democracy' via capitalism and so-called 
&lt;br/&gt;free trade).
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The elites (manipulating the elections) chose Bush -- twice. Now, 
&lt;br/&gt;almost six years into the fascist Bush 2 era we are witnessing both 
&lt;br/&gt;parties criticizing Bush (giving the sheeple false hopes, again) 
&lt;br/&gt;even as the corporate media begin propping up Hillary or McCain 
&lt;br/&gt;(what maverick?) or Edwards (or other globalist tools) 
&lt;br/&gt;as `alternatives' to the madness in Washington. One cannot run for 
&lt;br/&gt;or become president without the approval of the elites.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As Paul Joseph Watson warned us, `Hillary is the rat poison that 
&lt;br/&gt;will sink America.' It matters not who is selected. The madness will 
&lt;br/&gt;continue unabated until America is totally destroyed for the 
&lt;br/&gt;international bankers and globalists and driven into the waiting 
&lt;br/&gt;arms of the UN -- created to institute a One World Government; 
&lt;br/&gt;achieving David Rockefeller's long time dream and goal: controlling 
&lt;br/&gt;the world's resources (monopoly) and the reduction of the world 
&lt;br/&gt;population through manipulated wars and bio-engineered 
&lt;br/&gt;diseases . . . and the enslavement of those that are allowed to 
&lt;br/&gt;remain to serve the elites.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We are and have been an occupied and fascist state -- the blending 
&lt;br/&gt;of corporations, banking and government. As Patrick Wood of the 
&lt;br/&gt;August Review, a research center for globalism, points out, `the 
&lt;br/&gt;Global Elite march in three essential columns: Corporate, Political 
&lt;br/&gt;and Academic.' Corporate determines the goals; Academia provides the 
&lt;br/&gt;white papers or propaganda for the Politicians to then sell to the 
&lt;br/&gt;unwitting citizens. Corporate media and all liberal gatekeepers are 
&lt;br/&gt;not only controlled by the CIA, but have members on their boards 
&lt;br/&gt;from all three groups to facilitate the manipulation of the desired 
&lt;br/&gt;public opinion. An example is a Carlyle (Bush family connected 
&lt;br/&gt;military industrial complex investment group) board member on the 
&lt;br/&gt;New York Times board; cross-pollination exists throughout the elite 
&lt;br/&gt;spectrum encompassing all aspects of finance and power. Everyone, 
&lt;br/&gt;those with their hands on the levers of power, is literally on the 
&lt;br/&gt;same page.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Welcome to the New World Order -- Ready or Not
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;David Rockefeller -- the godfather of the New World Order - a member 
&lt;br/&gt;of the Bilderbergers and the Council of Foreign Relations and co-
&lt;br/&gt;founder of the Trilateral Commission, thanked the media facilitators 
&lt;br/&gt;(most of whom are also members of one or more of these groups):
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time 
&lt;br/&gt;and other great publications whose directors have attended our 
&lt;br/&gt;meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 
&lt;br/&gt;years . . . It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan 
&lt;br/&gt;for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity 
&lt;br/&gt;during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated now and 
&lt;br/&gt;prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational 
&lt;br/&gt;sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely 
&lt;br/&gt;preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past 
&lt;br/&gt;centuries"
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;David Rockefeller gave this talk at the annual Bilderberg meeting in 
&lt;br/&gt;June 1991 held in Germany.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Alex Carey, an Australian scholar on propaganda techniques 
&lt;br/&gt;observed: "The 20th century has been characterized by three 
&lt;br/&gt;developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, 
&lt;br/&gt;the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate 
&lt;br/&gt;propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against 
&lt;br/&gt;democracy."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It is clear that what has been a long and deliberate process has 
&lt;br/&gt;become evermore sophisticated in its manipulation of Americans and 
&lt;br/&gt;the world. For at least 100 years, America has been occupied by the 
&lt;br/&gt;Rockefellers, the Morgan's, the Rothschild's and other international 
&lt;br/&gt;bankers who have used their wealth and power (and by their illegal 
&lt;br/&gt;creation of the Federal Reserve and Income Tax Acts in 1913) to 
&lt;br/&gt;subvert America and humanity, in general, for their own greedy and 
&lt;br/&gt;nefarious purposes -- the documentation exists and only connecting 
&lt;br/&gt;the dots is needed.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The late William Cooper, a former military intelligence officer and 
&lt;br/&gt;world-renowned researcher, said this about the New World 
&lt;br/&gt;Order, "They are bound together by blood oaths, a secret religion, 
&lt;br/&gt;and the promise of an elite status within regional government, or 
&lt;br/&gt;the world supra government. Their religion is based upon the 
&lt;br/&gt;Kabbalah, the Luciferian Philosophy, and the worship of the Sun. 
&lt;br/&gt;They are not bound by any oath or allegiance save their own. They 
&lt;br/&gt;are loyal to no government or People save their own. And they are 
&lt;br/&gt;Citizens of no country save their already in place secret world 
&lt;br/&gt;government. In their words, 'If you are not one of us you are 
&lt;br/&gt;nothing.' To garner some sense of 'feel' for the concept see the 
&lt;br/&gt;movie 'They Live.'
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"It is a largely 'open' conspiracy, in that much of its membership, 
&lt;br/&gt;structure, methods, and operations, are matters of public record, 
&lt;br/&gt;however scattered and obscure. Its manner of coordination is 
&lt;br/&gt;atypical. Two nuclei -- the elite core of the Wall Street clique 
&lt;br/&gt;(orbiting the House of Rockefeller) and the elite core of the 
&lt;br/&gt;European financial clique (orbiting the House of Rothschild) -- 
&lt;br/&gt;coordinate this global conspiracy by waging psychological warfare on 
&lt;br/&gt;the rest of the conspirators, telling each no more than is necessary 
&lt;br/&gt;for him to fulfill his designated role, often with explicit 
&lt;br/&gt;recognition neither of his role, nor of the unarticulated rules that 
&lt;br/&gt;govern him.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"Thus, the overwhelming bulk of the conspirators do not know, but 
&lt;br/&gt;only suspect, that they are part of and in service to a power 
&lt;br/&gt;somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so 
&lt;br/&gt;complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their 
&lt;br/&gt;breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Further he added: . . . emerging realities in 2006, "There will be 
&lt;br/&gt;no individual Rights only privileges. These will be granted or 
&lt;br/&gt;denied at will by the world supra government. All property is to be 
&lt;br/&gt;owned by the State. There will be a redistribution of wealth. They 
&lt;br/&gt;plan to eliminate class differences and reduce the standard of 
&lt;br/&gt;living to a lower level in the advanced nations, such as the United 
&lt;br/&gt;States, and to a higher standard of living in the so-called third 
&lt;br/&gt;world nations.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"This leveling of the standard of living will be accomplished 
&lt;br/&gt;through a global economic collapse which is in its beginning stages. 
&lt;br/&gt;The economic collapse will fulfill the goal of Marx and Engle's' 
&lt;br/&gt;Communist Manifesto mandating the elimination of the middle class. 
&lt;br/&gt;The graduated income tax was the first implementation of this 
&lt;br/&gt;process and is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto. NAFTA 
&lt;br/&gt;and GATT (add now CAFTA and the pending FTAA) are a part of this 
&lt;br/&gt;process encouraging industry to move into third-world nations in 
&lt;br/&gt;order to exploit cheap labor.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"All existing religions will disappear. The only religion will be 
&lt;br/&gt;the state religion (humanism or illuminism).
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"All County and State governments will be eliminated and replaced 
&lt;br/&gt;with regional government. These regional governments (Home Rule) are 
&lt;br/&gt;already in place. Regionalism is gradually taking control throughout 
&lt;br/&gt;America.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"There will be no more cash. Trade will be accomplished by a system 
&lt;br/&gt;of computer credits with accounts accessed through debit cards or 
&lt;br/&gt;computer chip implants. The cards or implants will also serve as 
&lt;br/&gt;personal identification, drivers license, and etc. When this is 
&lt;br/&gt;completed the human race will be shackled to a computer in a never 
&lt;br/&gt;ending cycle of debt. No action or movement will ever again be 
&lt;br/&gt;private."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Constitution for the United States of America and its Bill of 
&lt;br/&gt;Rights will be scrapped. A parliamentary form of government will 
&lt;br/&gt;take its place. All military forces and individuals are to be 
&lt;br/&gt;disarmed except for an internal police force which will carry only 
&lt;br/&gt;the minimum weapons needed to maintain internal order.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Although Cooper only lived to see a little more than a year of the 
&lt;br/&gt;Bush presidency, he was a firm advocate that President Clinton, 
&lt;br/&gt;although posing as a man of the people, was (and still is) in fact 
&lt;br/&gt;one of the biggest and most diabolical front men for the New World 
&lt;br/&gt;Order.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;William Cooper, author of the classic, `Beyond a Pale Horse' was 
&lt;br/&gt;killed on November 5, 2001, by authorities at his home in Arizona.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Globalization, free trade and `spreading democracy' are Trojan 
&lt;br/&gt;horses for the NWO/International Bankers true predatory intent. The 
&lt;br/&gt;fact that America's downward financial spiral started in earnest 
&lt;br/&gt;shortly after the Trilateral Commission was founded by David 
&lt;br/&gt;Rockefeller and Zbigniew Breszinksi in 1973 is not incidental. The 
&lt;br/&gt;very policies that brought us the "New International Economic Order" 
&lt;br/&gt;(their own phrase) have wrecked our country. Trilateral member and 
&lt;br/&gt;Democratic President Jimmy Carter had 19 Trilateral members 
&lt;br/&gt;(including VP Mondale and Breszinksi as national security adviser) 
&lt;br/&gt;in his administration in 1976 and began David Rockefeller's mission 
&lt;br/&gt;to de-industrialize America. The elites in fact have bankrupted 
&lt;br/&gt;(sold off) and destroyed America by off-shoring critical 
&lt;br/&gt;manufacturing enterprises and knowledge and technologies, which is 
&lt;br/&gt;continuing and is now, 30 years later, almost complete as the Big 3 
&lt;br/&gt;auto manufacturers have been designed to collapse, further eroding 
&lt;br/&gt;America's independence and vitality.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The (State) Media Lies
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Joel Skousen (on his site) wrote recently that the media are 
&lt;br/&gt;completely in lockstep with the USG. I would add that we have been 
&lt;br/&gt;under the greatest psychological operations ever in the history of 
&lt;br/&gt;man, involving all levels of media -- corporate media and liberal 
&lt;br/&gt;gatekeepers. Information is the coin of the realm and our minders 
&lt;br/&gt;would rather have us believing their fiction and not what we may 
&lt;br/&gt;find in our research on the Internet.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The media lies and manipulates perceptions as a matter of course -- 
&lt;br/&gt;and as corporate-owned organs of the power elite structure they 
&lt;br/&gt;serve only to protect the status quo and those in power in their 
&lt;br/&gt;quest towards creating a New World Order and protecting their 
&lt;br/&gt;international banking interests.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The CIA's annex, the Washington Post, and best patron, the late 
&lt;br/&gt;Katherine Graham, once remarked the world is a dangerous place and 
&lt;br/&gt;that democracy operates best when some details are not shared with 
&lt;br/&gt;the population. The WP and the New York Times, the lead so 
&lt;br/&gt;called `premier' papers, operate similarly and are conduits of 
&lt;br/&gt;propaganda for the Powers That Be and their security apparatuses, 
&lt;br/&gt;and provide the `copy' for all the other press in the US. The Daily 
&lt;br/&gt;News and New York Post -- comic book versions of the news -- are 
&lt;br/&gt;dumbed down propaganda rags for the `common man' with loud 
&lt;br/&gt;headlines, plenty of mindless celebrity gossip and partially naked 
&lt;br/&gt;women to distract. TV land (including PBS, C-SPAN) and radio (like 
&lt;br/&gt;NPR) mimics repetitively (through all news and Sunday talk shows) 
&lt;br/&gt;the same official fictions that are disseminated in the press. The 
&lt;br/&gt;evening news on all of the alphabet channels is eerily alike in 
&lt;br/&gt;format and content -- by design, of course.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Polls are used to fine tune messages/propaganda and are manipulated 
&lt;br/&gt;to reflect the desired public perception -- like the deliberate 
&lt;br/&gt;linkage of 9/11 and Iraq. Online CNN polls have been known to 
&lt;br/&gt;disappear after the results were not as expected -- suggesting that 
&lt;br/&gt;no matter the propaganda the public may not be buying it -- forcing 
&lt;br/&gt;the puppet meisters to recalibrate their propaganda efforts. The 
&lt;br/&gt;average citizen it is assumed will fall in line with the `majority' 
&lt;br/&gt;view of a poll even though Joe Citizen has no way to confirm the 
&lt;br/&gt;poll. It is possible that the majority of people may consider that 
&lt;br/&gt;they are in the minority,.victims of the corporate media propaganda 
&lt;br/&gt;and poll manipulation, and remain silent about critical issues 
&lt;br/&gt;because of it.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The NWO and their political / media / clandestine operatives use a 
&lt;br/&gt;technique called Problem-Reaction-Solution where a situation is 
&lt;br/&gt;created for which the public demands a solution -- by orchestrating 
&lt;br/&gt;the problem and manipulating the reaction, a solution, originally 
&lt;br/&gt;desired, is effected. It accomplishes their goal while the public 
&lt;br/&gt;thinks they had some input. This process is repeated over and over 
&lt;br/&gt;and is evident in the current Immigrant demonstrations that have 
&lt;br/&gt;been organized by the elites at the top to foment unrest and 
&lt;br/&gt;division in America. Events are created and managed to accomplish 
&lt;br/&gt;the elite's desired goals with the politicians and the corporate 
&lt;br/&gt;media as accomplices and facilitators -- all moving incrementally 
&lt;br/&gt;towards the creation of the New World Order.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Add to this the elite's ownership of and control of media 
&lt;br/&gt;corporations, 40,000 lobbyists, hundreds of think tanks, the 
&lt;br/&gt;foundations, the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral 
&lt;br/&gt;Commission, Bilderberg and countless other groups that `control the 
&lt;br/&gt;dialogue' and provide both parties (the duopoly) with mountains of 
&lt;br/&gt;propaganda to create distractions and wedge issues (abortion, gay 
&lt;br/&gt;marriage, illegal immigration, etc); or the latest `trivia news 
&lt;br/&gt;saturation' (missing blondes, rapes at Duke, a Kennedy in rehab) 
&lt;br/&gt;while the greater issues of the day are conveniently disregarded. 
&lt;br/&gt;All this and more is arrayed against the lone American citizen 
&lt;br/&gt;struggling to understand what is happening to his country and the 
&lt;br/&gt;world. It is no wonder that the American citizen is not informed -- 
&lt;br/&gt;by design, of course.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Mark Twain once said that if one does not read the newspaper he is 
&lt;br/&gt;uninformed and misinformed if he does.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Nothing important gets into the corporate media unless officially 
&lt;br/&gt;created, sanctioned, approved or leaked on purpose.
&lt;br/&gt;Next: In Part 2, we will further explore the corporate media, 
&lt;br/&gt;liberal gatekeepers and how the news and views are controlled by the 
&lt;br/&gt;elite ruling class. Parts 2 and 3 will elaborate on some of the ways 
&lt;br/&gt;the New World Order and their proxies -- the Democrats and 
&lt;br/&gt;Republicans -- are destroying America. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Copyright © 1998-2006 Online Journal
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Found at http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_775.shtml
&lt;br/&gt;__
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The biggest con: Democrats &amp;amp; Republicans work together to destroy 
&lt;br/&gt;America, part 2 of 3
&lt;br/&gt;Tibor S. Friedman
&lt;br/&gt;Online Journal Contributing Writer
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;May 9, 2006, 01:32
&lt;br/&gt;	
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Nothing important gets into the corporate media unless officially 
&lt;br/&gt;created, sanctioned, approved or leaked on purpose.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I cite two recent examples of media manipulation, omission and/or 
&lt;br/&gt;fabrication.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The NSA domestic spying story: Spying has been standard operating 
&lt;br/&gt;procedure by the US government for decades against its own citizens -
&lt;br/&gt;- the story was held by the New York Times before the 2004 elections 
&lt;br/&gt;but was released in December 2005!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Why?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Certainly not to inform the unwitting and manipulated public! The 
&lt;br/&gt;New York Times publisher was at the White House discussing this 
&lt;br/&gt;story prior to its release, raising suspicions about the motivation. 
&lt;br/&gt;The ensuing (staged with the usual talking points) controversy 
&lt;br/&gt;favored increasing the president's powers `in time of war' and even 
&lt;br/&gt;a censure (slap on the wrist) from Sen. Russ Feingold had no 
&lt;br/&gt;traction because of the spineless Democratic members. So, what was 
&lt;br/&gt;the point? To further condition Americans to the idea that spying on 
&lt;br/&gt;them was to protect them from terrorists and that giving up liberty 
&lt;br/&gt;for security was an acceptable sacrifice. The lopsided Judicial 
&lt;br/&gt;Committee (10 Republicans and. 8 Democrats -- why even bother?) had 
&lt;br/&gt;hearings (dog and pony shows) to reinforce the idea of the war 
&lt;br/&gt;powers of the president. Manipulation of public perception seemed to 
&lt;br/&gt;be the primary motivation.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Spying &amp;amp; the Internet: The Internet -- originally created by the US 
&lt;br/&gt;government spook lab DARPA -- may soon be controlled (and charging 
&lt;br/&gt;tolls) by the large media and cable corporations with limited 
&lt;br/&gt;content and access, threatening the last bastion of real free 
&lt;br/&gt;speech. Technology used by the US government is at least several 
&lt;br/&gt;generations ahead of commercial technology available in the market. 
&lt;br/&gt;It is rumored that all new monitors have micro cameras imbedded that 
&lt;br/&gt;can remotely watch you whether or not the computer is on unless the 
&lt;br/&gt;power is shut off. However, in tandem with corporate assaults 
&lt;br/&gt;against the Internet is the Pentagon's view of the Internet (free 
&lt;br/&gt;speech) being as dangerous as an `enemy's weapon system' as stated 
&lt;br/&gt;in their declassified report `The Information's Operation Roadmap.'
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;See the Center for Digital Democracy for more information on what 
&lt;br/&gt;our so-called `representatives' are being lobbied (bribed) to 
&lt;br/&gt;legislate (currently being debated) against Network Neutrality (the 
&lt;br/&gt;Open Internet) -- all for money and silencing dissent.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The second story was about DPW (Dubai Ports), while generating much 
&lt;br/&gt;media bread and circus critical pieces of information were omitted. 
&lt;br/&gt;All media outlets ignored the globalization process that is and has 
&lt;br/&gt;been orchestrated and deliberate and not the `natural process' as 
&lt;br/&gt;Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Neocon/Globalist Thomas 'Flat 
&lt;br/&gt;Word' Friedman of the New York Times would have us believe. Focusing 
&lt;br/&gt;on the `security issues' -- the circus included the usual suspects 
&lt;br/&gt;and `experts' from the CFR (now out of the closet) and think tanks, 
&lt;br/&gt;etc., while none strayed from the `security' talking points. Little 
&lt;br/&gt;attention was given the fact that America has been virtually sold 
&lt;br/&gt;out from under our feet by our so-called leaders.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The centerpiece of this story is the Committee on Foreign Investment 
&lt;br/&gt;in the United States (CFIUS) -- the group that vets and reviews all 
&lt;br/&gt;foreign investments. The corporate media (and liberal media) across 
&lt;br/&gt;the board repeatedly told us that CFIUS was a secret body that 
&lt;br/&gt;informed cabinet members of pending deals -- well it turns out that 
&lt;br/&gt;the members are not only cabinet members but Bush insiders. What an 
&lt;br/&gt;egregious omission!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Patrick Wood's August Review tells us that the CFIUS committee 
&lt;br/&gt;membership is hardly made up of second-rate government staffers. Its 
&lt;br/&gt;12 members include:
&lt;br/&gt;John W. Snow, Secretary of the Treasury, Chairman 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;John Marburger, Director of the Office of Science and Technology 
&lt;br/&gt;Policy 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Stephen Hadley, National Security Advisor 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Stephen Friedman, Assistant to the President for Economic Policy 
&lt;br/&gt;(TC) 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Michael Chertoff, Secretary of Homeland Security 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense (CFR) 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Carlos M. Gutierrez, Secretary of Commerce 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Alberto Gonzales, U.S. Attorney General 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Joshua Bolten, White House Chief of Staff 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Rob Portman, U.S. Trade Representative
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;N. Gregory Mankiw, Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On April 3, Rep. Jim Kolbe (R) addressed the Carnegie Endowment for 
&lt;br/&gt;International Peace (a Globalist think tank and Bilderberg member) --
&lt;br/&gt; more like singing to the choir -- about national security and 
&lt;br/&gt;foreign investments. Kolbe referred to CFIUS as a group that is 
&lt;br/&gt;secretive but is concerned about national security. His pep talk was 
&lt;br/&gt;about the positive attributes of globalization -- allowing 
&lt;br/&gt;foreigners to `invest' in America because it made us friends in the 
&lt;br/&gt;world.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As you can see from the CFIUS members list -- all are Bush insiders 
&lt;br/&gt;and cabinet members. Omissions and Lies are reinforced throughout 
&lt;br/&gt;the information pipeline -- talking points and scripts replace the 
&lt;br/&gt;truth. Of 1,500 deals passed through CFIUS during the Bush reign 
&lt;br/&gt;only one has been rejected! In fact, small local newspaper recently 
&lt;br/&gt;reported, "President Bush has approved the takeover by a Dubai-owned 
&lt;br/&gt;company of American plants that make parts for jets and tanks after 
&lt;br/&gt;a review that seems to have satisfied lawmakers who helped block an 
&lt;br/&gt;earlier Dubai deal." The AP report also said, "Initial reaction from 
&lt;br/&gt;Capitol Hill was favorable." (Which `lawmakers'?)
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Specifically, the Dubai company takes over control of at least nine 
&lt;br/&gt;factories, including military production facilities in Connecticut 
&lt;br/&gt;and Georgia. Dubai settled the deal for $1.2 billion. The corporate 
&lt;br/&gt;media had not reported any of these details to most Americans. 
&lt;br/&gt;Selling our national security interests to the Arabs seems rath