Well, here's an explanation of my lil' bit of hell I experienced just a couple weeks ago.
For a couple months now, I've had a 7-day vacation planned in Montreal. My childhood friend asked me
to join him at the VANS Warped Tour. He's good friends w/ one of the bands that's playing.
I was even gonna meet-up w/ some new MTL friends; we met through a fellow musician buddy in NYC.
These guys invited me to do a guest DJ spot + lay down some Flute tracks in the studio.
And of course I was gonna spend a couple days w/ my ex-girlfriend + her family (who I've never met in-person).
After getting all the proper I.D. + made Hotel arrangements, I take a 10-hour train all the way to the border.
Each & everyone's credentials are checked which took a long-ass time.
I was red-flagged & removed from the train; denied entrance to CANADA & turned away at the border!!!
Apparently, my DUI charge from 2004 is considered a BIG DEAL over there...
as is almost ANY type of offense greater than spitting on the sidewalk. It was pretty devastating,
mostly 'cuz I was caught completely off-guard & exhausted (I broke night on the eve before the train ride).
Besides, I've paid my debt for this mistake already --
yet I'm being punished again! I was told that this happens practically EVERYDAY out there, but that was little consolation.
It was really difficult to remain calm after hours & hours of bureaucratic nonsense & asshole attitude
(from the Border Patrol). The U.S. officers TOTALLY acted like dickheads! I had to wait hours
for a Charter Bus to allow me a seat back to NYC (another 8 hours). In the end, I've lost almost $1000 on the vacation + got "put to the test" emotionally speaking. I missed out on some great opportunities & some much needed R&R.
Yeah, it sux, & I'm not even eligible to approach the Canadian Consulate (in NYC) to see if they'll grant me
entrance until 2009. And it's possible that I won't be allowed into Canada until 2014 or later!!!
The rules of travel re: PASSPORTS (trust me... I did EXTENSIVE research on this subject!):
If traveling by Airplane, you must have a passport or at the very least have an application that has been approved for processing.
You must prove the status of your application with a certified document from the Official Passport Agency.
This law changes next year; in which you must possess a passport in order to travel by air outside of the Country.
If traveling by land, sea, or fresh water you're only required to provide a State-issued I.D. (Driver's license)
+ an original copy of your Official Birth Certificate. This law will most likely change next year as well;
Mandatory Passports for every type of travel.
Life will never be the same after 9/11 -- The problem is, I don't believe it happened the way the Bush administration says it did.
Outlawfully Yours, DM in da PM
For a couple months now, I've had a 7-day vacation planned in Montreal. My childhood friend asked me
to join him at the VANS Warped Tour. He's good friends w/ one of the bands that's playing.
I was even gonna meet-up w/ some new MTL friends; we met through a fellow musician buddy in NYC.
These guys invited me to do a guest DJ spot + lay down some Flute tracks in the studio.
And of course I was gonna spend a couple days w/ my ex-girlfriend + her family (who I've never met in-person).
After getting all the proper I.D. + made Hotel arrangements, I take a 10-hour train all the way to the border.
Each & everyone's credentials are checked which took a long-ass time.
I was red-flagged & removed from the train; denied entrance to CANADA & turned away at the border!!!
Apparently, my DUI charge from 2004 is considered a BIG DEAL over there...
as is almost ANY type of offense greater than spitting on the sidewalk. It was pretty devastating,
mostly 'cuz I was caught completely off-guard & exhausted (I broke night on the eve before the train ride).
Besides, I've paid my debt for this mistake already --
yet I'm being punished again! I was told that this happens practically EVERYDAY out there, but that was little consolation.
It was really difficult to remain calm after hours & hours of bureaucratic nonsense & asshole attitude
(from the Border Patrol). The U.S. officers TOTALLY acted like dickheads! I had to wait hours
for a Charter Bus to allow me a seat back to NYC (another 8 hours). In the end, I've lost almost $1000 on the vacation + got "put to the test" emotionally speaking. I missed out on some great opportunities & some much needed R&R.
Yeah, it sux, & I'm not even eligible to approach the Canadian Consulate (in NYC) to see if they'll grant me
entrance until 2009. And it's possible that I won't be allowed into Canada until 2014 or later!!!
The rules of travel re: PASSPORTS (trust me... I did EXTENSIVE research on this subject!):
If traveling by Airplane, you must have a passport or at the very least have an application that has been approved for processing.
You must prove the status of your application with a certified document from the Official Passport Agency.
This law changes next year; in which you must possess a passport in order to travel by air outside of the Country.
If traveling by land, sea, or fresh water you're only required to provide a State-issued I.D. (Driver's license)
+ an original copy of your Official Birth Certificate. This law will most likely change next year as well;
Mandatory Passports for every type of travel.
Life will never be the same after 9/11 -- The problem is, I don't believe it happened the way the Bush administration says it did.
Outlawfully Yours, DM in da PM
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Re: Devastated, turned away at the border...
Tue, August 28, 2007 - 11:02 AMDamn, that is a terrible story!! I'm sorry to hear you had to go through all of that crap.
Thank you SO much for the info. Now I'm rethinking my game plan.
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Process to get access to Canada after a criminal offence.
Wed, September 12, 2007 - 8:27 AMDave: I am really sorry about your experience. You should be aware that it has been the policy of both the US and Canada to refuse entry to foreign nationals who have past criminal convictions. As a Canadian who crosses the border regularly, I know that I will be asked 'have you ever been convicted of a crime in Canada' or some similar question. This policy has existed for years - long before your current President came to power. Don't waste your time paying for a consultant to assist you. If you wish to enter Canada ever... you will need an application for Criminal Rehabilitation.
Here is URL -
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Re: Process to get access to Canada after a criminal offence.
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 12:01 PM
Thanks so much for your thoughtful assistance ;-)
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Re: Process to get access to Canada after a criminal offence.
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Re: Process to get access to Canada after a criminal offence.
Sun, October 7, 2007 - 10:16 AM
I'm a Canadian born and raised in Montreal. I'm generally a very positive and peaceful person, but I've got so much disgust for the attitude of US border officers, treating us as guilty before proven innocent, that I have not crossed the border since 911.
I believe it got much worse after 911and this is no one's fault but Bush. He's instilled fear and pathetic beliefs in the minds of the most vulnerable and gullable, and actually succeeded in creating even more racism in most people who watch the news and believe it.
It's unfortunate but this is what it's come to.
Sorry to hear about your experience.
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